Talk:List of mountains of the British Isles by height

Change title to 'List of mountains of Britain and Ireland by height'

As the term British Isles (when referring to Britain and Ireland) is offensive to Irish people, the title should be changed to 'List of mountains of Britain and Ireland by height'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunningo (talk • contribs) 10:43, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Offensive to some, perhaps many, perhaps not. See WP:NPOVTITLE for an explanation. Cnbrb (talk) 13:21, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

The grouping of Ireland and Britain is offensive to the majority of Irish people. This grouping implies that the islands of Ireland and Britain can be considered to form a single unit. Why not compile a list of the highest mountains in France and Britain? The answer is that the vast majority of English people mistakingly believe that Ireland and its islands form part of the British Isles. Lordlugus (talk) 11:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

You're making political protest point about a geographical term which is not relevant here, especially as Ireland is divided politically anyway so no-one can claim the island for one nation or the other. If we Irish are going to object to that, then why should others not protest that the Irish Sea is misnamed. But these are geographical terms with long historical provenance. Geographically, the British Isles have always been so named, not after the present United Kingdom, but after the Britons who populated much of it, most of whom fled to Ireland, Wales and the west of England when the Angles and Saxons invaded. In a strange way, we Irish are more true blue British than the British who are really Anglo-Saxons lol. Bermicourt (talk) 21:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Re: displacement of Celtic Britons to Ireland. While there is some evidence that a small number of Britons were displaced to modern day Wexford and Waterford in the 5th and 6th centuries, there is no research which suggests that the numbers arriving were large. Those Britons that did migrate to Ireland were very likely the ancestors of the Deise who returned to returned to Southern Wales as part of the 7th Century Deise expansion. The idea that Iron Age Celts moved first into Britain and then into Ireland was an English invention used to justify their control of Ireland as a part of the British Isles. Modern DNA research shows that while Celtic Britons did originate in Gaul, the Celtic inhabitants of Ireland were predominantly Celt-Iberian. Also, I disagree that this is not the correct forum for making political points. If you insist that we must accept the Greek and Roman view of geography then go ahead and alter every map and geographical entry on Wikipedia. Lordlugus (talk) 10:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

"British Isles" is geographically correct but the term is offensive to the majority of people in the Republic, and to some in the North. The Irish Enbassy in London discourages its use and recommends "Britain and Ireland". Hardy1769 (talk) 15:39, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Page talks of sorting by Region, but not possible

The body text talks of sorting the table by Region when it wants an example column, but the table does not permit sorting on that column. Preferably, it would. -- Ralph Corderoy (talk) 13:30, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

It sorts by England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales etc. That is what it means by region. Britishfinance (talk) 19:06, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Post-expand include size

The page, as it currently sits, exceeds the Post-expand include size limit, and therefore all templates after row 1982 are ignored by the software and not rendered (including the list of references). I fixed this error by hardcoding the OS Grid Reference links, which not only made the entire page display correctly, but reduced the amount of time it takes Wikipedia's servers to render the page from 7.5 seconds to 3 seconds. My edit was reverted by Britishfinance who said "Something going wrong with the table" but gave no further details. My "fixed" revision had no errors that I could see, other than the fact that table is that sorting takes an incredibly long time because it has 2754 rows (but that's just as true with the "stable" version as well). Britishfinance, could you explain what exactly you thought was wrong with the table that your revert fixed? --Ahecht (TALK
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My mistake there Ahecht, I took off the "very long" tag, and then things seemed to do odd (e.g. my edit looked like I had made a huge change), but I restored the wrong version. Have fixed that now and have restored your version. Reason for taking off the tag is that we wanted a list of British Isles mountains that could be searchable under various criteria (e.g. height and prominence). Having a British Isles table avoids issues with the mountains on the internal borders. thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 17:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks! --Ahecht (TALK
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Certainly the issue with the article, both in length and templates, is the map data which doesn't belong in this article. I'm trying to remove the data from the article. Onetwothreeip (talk) 02:13, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm having issues editing this very large article. Does anybody know how to make the visual editor work? Thanks. Onetwothreeip (talk) 02:24, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

No longer a 'List of mountains of the British Isles by height'

Now that User:PK2 has split this article into six sections, the page title and lead no longer reflect accurately upon its contents. Could somebody address this, please? Nick Moyes (talk) 12:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I would rather revert back to the original that allowed you search by height, by prominence, and overall, and within Scotland, England, Wales, Ireland? Britishfinance (talk) 19:39, 15 June 2020 (UTC)