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Sort order

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Just so everyone knows, I've resorted the list so that if several series have the same number of volumes, they get sorted as follows:

  1. Ongoing series first, concluded series last (series with an unknown publication status go in between)
  2. Most to least chapters (series with no available or known chapter count go last
  3. Alphabetically by series title (happens most often when no chapter count is available)

Feel free to change or add to this sorting order if you think it needs it... in particular, for concluded series, a possible alternate sorting method to alphabetically by series title might be [approximate] date of conclusion. Any thoughts? —Dinoguy1000 04:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New sort order -
This list is sorted in a very specific manner; start at the top and work down as necessary:
  1. Number of volumes (most to fewest)
  2. Ongoing series first, then finished ones
  3. First serialized/published dates (from earliest to most recent; more specific dates always come first between dates like "1999" and "June 1999")
  4. Number of chapters (series with a chapter count before those without)
  5. Alphabetically by series title —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.17.65 (talk) 09:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

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Shouldnt we expand the lead by explaining how is the manga serialized so that it could be easier to understand? For example explaining that they are first serialized in a magazine and then in tankobon. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not all manga gets serialized first... so we would have to make a point of noting that. Other than that, if you have ideas for expanding the lead, then by all means, do so... it definitely needs it. ;) —Dinoguy1000 20:33, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I keep thinking the lead needs expansion, but darned if I can figure out what to say. :-P -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 20:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are several manga published in volumes first? If those manga are quite a few we could point that.Tintor2 (talk) 02:17, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there are definitely manga that are published in tankoubon without being serialized, but I'm not sure if there's any on this list (the most likely ones I've come across while adding dates are Minami no Teiou and Asari-chan, but since neither one has an article and I haven't asked anyone, it's possible that I simply overlooked something). --Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 66.116.12.126 (talk) 04:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Serialization schedule?

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Should we note the serialization schedule of these series? For instance, it would seem a lot easier for a weekly series to surpass 40 volumes than it would for a monthly series to even reach 35. For that matter, we may want to split the list into sections along this line, with different inclusion thresholds for each (and then turn around and do something similar with the anime list)... Thoughts? 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 19:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Curious about series relation

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I was the one who added Saint Seiya along with its prequels to the article, but I'm thinking I shouldn't have done that. Should we count series +prequels/sequels in the article? The problem about Saint Seiya is that the prequels Lost Canvas and Episode.G were written by different and authors and published by different editorials. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Having given it some thought recently, it seems to me the best test would be whether you would include such series when referring to the series in general (but in a very specific way - I'm trying to get at, for instance, both seasons of Code Geass being referred to as simply "Code Geass" together, but the anime series Naruto and Naruto Shippuden being thought of separately). In this case, because of different authors and publishers (I assume that's what you mean by "editorials", please correct me if I'm wrong), I'd probably say they shouldn't be counted. 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 10:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For consideration

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75.156.153.74 (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Is still the original author making it?Tintor2 (talk) 02:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, according to ANN, it's the longest single-author strip in history (and the longest-running manga series in Japan). I'm thinking this could be my next cleanup/expand project; it sounds very interesting. =) --Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 66.116.12.126 (talk) 04:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep an eye on

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Shouldn't Shonan Junai Gumi/Great Teacher Onizuka be on the list? GTO (combined between the 3 series) is at 36 volumes, if you include Shonan Junai Gumi that puts the complete stories of Onizuka at 67 (68 if you include Bad Company) volumes and still going? Serrin (talk) 03:07, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image?

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I'm a big fan of images in articles (and lists!), and thus can't help but feel that this one could really use an image. If I had to pick one myself, it would probably be the first Japanese cover of KochiKame. However, I'm not sure how well that would work out with policy (that is, I'm not sure there's any reasonlable excuse fair-use rationale we could come up with to justify its use). Am I just being weird here, or am I perhaps on the right track, and looking at the wrong place? Thoughts? 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 21:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know...maybe do like Loli and show a picture of a shelf of manga or a manga cafe or something? I'd imagine that would be considered a free image and avoid the issue of having to FUR it-- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 22:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... I thought my original message didn't feel quite right... ;P A big part of the problem isn't just the FUR, it's also coming up with an image that's appropriate for the list. Cover images are appropriate for series articles and chapter/episode lists for obvious reasons, but I'm having a hard time coming up with a good excuse for a cover image (or a picture of a shelf of manga or something) to be relevant here... Thoughts? (hmm... why do I always seem to end my messages with the word "Thoughts?" ^_^;; ) 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 17:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictions?

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Why does this article contradict their corresponding articles? Jojo's Bizarre Adventure manga volume are listed as having 97 but the article says 63. NarSakSasLee (talk) 16:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

JJBA is a bit of a special case in how you count its length. The series has been published in seven parts, with each one following a different generation of the Joestar family. However, when the seventh part (Steel Ball Run) was started, and for quite a while after that, it was largely treated as a separate series - it wasn't until recently that it was clearly shown to really be a continuation of JJBA. Other than that, though, the whole series has been written and illustrated by the same person, serialized in the same magazine (well, SBR switched from Weekly Shonen Jump to Ultra Jump after 4 volumes, but still...), and released in tankoubon volumes by the same publisher, and mentions of the series by Viz Media always count SBR as part of the main series. As a result, all seven parts are counted together here to yield a total count of 97 volumes, but editors at JoJo's Bizarre Adventure have chosen (at least for now) to count SBR separately. 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 18:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nijitte Monogatari

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One series is missing from the list: Nijitte Monogatari (弐十手物語) by Kazuo Koike and Satomi Koue. It has 110 volumes in total. Pages for reference: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%BC%90%E5%8D%81%E6%89%8B%E7%89%A9%E8%AA%9E-110-%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%82%B0%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E5%B0%8F%E6%B1%A0-%E4%B8%80%E5%A4%AB/dp/4091866905 90.136.52.116 (talk) 19:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you provide more information? Who is the publisher, what magazine is it serialized in (if it is serialized), etc? 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 22:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Update - found the publisher, it's Shogakukan (vol. 110, title search). 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 22:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Digest for lead expansion

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The Manga Cargo Cult: How Manga Got Long (and Short Again) by Jason Thompson --Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 67.58.229.153 (talk) 05:02, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

new

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In a few days I manga I've read will hit volume 35. It hasn't it yet but within 2 weeks it'll be out. Can I add it now? Preceding unsigned comment added by RTY1998 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not until volume 35 is actually released. What series is it, by the way? 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 16:52, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Embrassing secert, it's Pokemon Adventures. Now judge me. But I like it. I can wait till then anyway. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by RTY1998 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Already listed above. And no worries, I think all anime/manga fans have their guilty pleasure (mine happens to be romance manga)... =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 07:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

35 tankōbon

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Why does it has at least 35 tankuban and why not 30? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.4.204 (talk) 06:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

30 ia not a bad idea or it is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.11.222 (talk) 08:52, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When I originally created this list, I actually considered going with 25 for the limit. To be honest, though, I've felt for a while that 35 is too low; I've thought about suggesting to up the limit to 40, or even to just go with the 100-or-so longest series instead of using a particular volume count cutoff. 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why not list page count as well?

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If you click on the thing to sort it by chapters instead of volumes, you'll notice some have far more chapters than others with far more volumes. I guess some just publish things in thicker collections, or perhaps they are just shorter in the magazines publishing them. Anyone for adding a row for total pages something has? For finished series that'd be easy to find, you just looking at a place that sells the volumes and seeing how many pages they list each one having, and add it up. Dream Focus 10:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not having checked this myself, my guess would be that the biggest chunk of the discrepancy has to do with the serialization schedule - weekly series tend to have fewer pages then monthly series, for instance, because there's much less time to work on the chapter. Page count would be tied much more closely to volume count, though; most tankōbon tend to have around the same number of pages per volume. The table is already quite large as-is, though; I don't think it could really support another column. 「ディノ奴千？！」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Prince of Tennis

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The manga series The Prince of Tennis has 42 volumes. Why isn't it listed? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 04:19, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kinnikuman

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Since a ton of other series on the list artificially inflate their volume count by including sequels, why doesn't Kinnikuman? It would be at least 116. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.45.194.143 (talk) 04:40, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

True. The series would have I guess 141 volumes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.97.120.97 (talk) 19:02, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kinnikuman II-sei is not a sequel, though, as the original Kinnikuman is still ongoing. Hihikka (talk) 10:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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New top 1.

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Why is Dokaben the new top 1? When and who discovered it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown contributor123 (talk • contribs) 05:16, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevant as is

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Chapters in a volume range from 3 to 12. They don't even have a fixed amount of pages - it's a range of pages and it's different for 4koma and other types of manga. What would be relevant information is number of chapters plus average number of pages per chapter or some small range of number of pages (20-22 as opposed to 20-30). Setenzatsu (talk) 00:04, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Improvement suggestion

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As somebody above noticed "Since a ton of other series on the list artificially inflate their volume count by including sequels," I suggest revamping the table so there is no confusion and the information is completely transparent.

I suggest it's done in a way as it's done here (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films#Highest-grossing_franchises_and_film_series) for film franchises. So you have accumulated data for all related works and then you can break it down if in need of such information. Setenzatsu (talk) 00:12, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

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Should such series like Sakigake!! Otokojuku and its sequels (mostly in name) be added? Or should, for example, GTO, its sequel and its prequel Shonan Junai Gumi be added? Some sources call them sequels, some don't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hihikka (talk • contribs) 11:13, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dragon Ball Super manga count towards original Dragon Ball manga?

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Since the original Dragon Ball manga is followed up with the Dragon Ball Super manga somewhat canonically, given the fact that its anime counterpart shares the same plot outline, but both the manga and the anime each have their own interpretations of the events featured in that same plot outline, would the Super manga's ongoing number of volumes add to the original manga's completed set of volumes? Or does it not count because Toyotaro is the author and illustrator, instead of Akira Toriyama like in the original?

Uuruuseiyo (talk) 04:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC) @Uuruuseiyo: I would say per separated but most importantly because of how it is marketed. For example, Shaman King Flowers and Super Star have the same main characters and plot but were split due to Hiroyuki Takei's change of publisher.Tintor2 (talk) 00:29, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't count it, no. It's a narrative sequel in both anime and manga versions, but that's where the similarity ends. Haleth (talk) 06:05, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Super are two different series, with their own respective titles (not counting the Viz Media edition, which separated the former in "Dragon Ball" and "Dragon Ball Z"). The Dragon Ball case is not like the Kinnikuman case, for example, which continued its publication 24 year later and its volumes follow the numeration of the first run. IMO the DBS volumes shouldn't be counted as DB volumes. - Xexerss (talk) 06:29, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose but JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Parts 7 & 8 (possibly Part 9 if JOJOLANDS is explicitly confirmed as the next part as Hirohiko Araki only stated that his next work is JOJOLANDS, which may end up being a spinoff of JoJo or something else entirely) that were serialized on Ultra Jump instead of Weekly Shonen Jump ended up not continuing off of the overall numbering of all the volumes complied so far and Part 6 Stone Ocean also reset the volume count too but at least the overall volume count was in parenthesis next to that part's own volume count. Maybe because of the fact Toriyama is only contributing to the Super manga with the plot outlines drafted for the manga and not actually the one responsible for illustrating and writing everything else not found it the story manuscripts as Toyotaro takes credit for that role. Toriyama is more of a creative supervisor overseeing the plot development of Super, both anime and manga.

Uuruuseiyo (talk) 03:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mahjong Hiryū Densetsu: Tenpai has a spin-off with the same creators

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Tenpai is first of all on hiatus right now due to the death of the author so it´s neither concluded nor ongoing. It more importantly has this canonical Gaiden manga with 37 volumes of its own with the same creators and publisher (Nihon Bungeisha). https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/天牌外伝 There is even a one-off volume named Tenpai Retsuden with the same creators and publisher. Should these be counted to the total? If Shonan Junai Gumi (the GTO-verse) counts as one thing then so does this. 77.64.147.229 (talk) 18:15, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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