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Additional characters for list

The following lesbian characters need to have one or more reliable sources to be included in the list (sources cannot be Tumblr, or Fandom wiki, or fan website):

Characters needing sources that confirm lesbian identity.

|Maya Etienne || Ayumi Roux || Skam France || Maya is openly lesbian and the girlfriend of Lola Lecomte.

|Jill (a.k.a. Da Thrill) || Naturi Naughton || Queens || Comes out to the rest of the hip-hop group in the pilot episode.

|Lizzie Saltzman || Jenny Boyd || Legacies || A student in the Salvatore supernatural school.

|Shelby Goodkind || Mia Healey || The Wilds || A closeted teenager whose story deals heavily with religion.

|Toni Shalifoe || Erana James || The Wilds || A teenager.

|April Stevens || Devon Hales || Teenage Bounty Hunters || She tells Sterling Wesley that she “crushes hard on girls and only girls” and the two start a relationship despite their repression due to their strict catholic school.

|Lilly Fortenberry || Samantha Aucoin || Astrid and Lilly Save the World || She dates Candace Powel.

|Jill (aka Da Thrill) || Naturi Naughton || Queens || Comes out to the rest of the hip-hop group in the pilot episode.

|Sarah Hayworth || Caitlin McGee || Home Economics || The poor Hayworth sibling. Married to Denise.

|Denise Hayworth || Sasheer Zamata || Home Economics || Sarah's wife.

|Ariel ("Ari") || Eden Epstein || Sweetbitter || Ari is a waitress who works at an eatery in Manhattan known as 22 W and likes to gossip.

|Amelia Scanwell || Jordon Stevens || Harlots || The daughter of a Christian evangelist in Georgian London, she has a romantic relationship with courtesan Violet Cross.

|Isabelle “Izzy” Richardson || Megan Stot || Little Fires Everywhere || In a relationship with April Jarvis, her best friend previous to the start of the season, and tells her mother about their relationship at the end of the season.

Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 10:02, 23 October 2021 (UTC); 03:37, 10 November 2021 (UTC) ^{[characters added]}; 13:11, 5 February 2022 (UTC) ^{[character added]}; 17:14, 19 January 2023‎ (UTC)^{[characters added]}; 10:16, 9 November 2023 (UTC) ^{[character added]}[reply]

Hmm, I would think it should be relatively easy to find sources for the bottom two series, but the first one...may be a challenge. --Historyday01 (talk) 14:16, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These are characters that were added to the list without sources. I agree about the first one -- but using Google.fr with a France-based VPN might return results. I'm just not in the mood to lift that many fingers. As for the other two, they're English-language series so I agree they should be easier to search for. Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 12:31, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Thirteenth Doctor

Should she be considered for the list. In the episode Legend of the Sea Devils she expressise her love for one of her female companions. As she has not expressed romantic intrest in men she should count. However due to the fact that the previous incarnations of The Doctor being a man does this exlude her from the list? OLI 00:34, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What do reliable published sources say about the character? Even if an editor has watched a TV series and sees a lesbian character portrayed in it, the character cannot be included in this list without citing acceptable sources that specifically identify/describe the character as "lesbian" (some sources use the term "gay" or "homosexual"). Just like all Wikipedia articles, lists also require sources. The sources cited cannot be user-generated sources. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 08:12, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In the Den of Geek review[1] they adress the scene where she tells Yaz about her feelings. OLI 15:32, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere in the Den of Geek article you linked does the word "lesbian" or "gay" appear. Feelings are irrelevant because the character can just as well be interpreted as being bisexual. As I said (and as required for inclusion of characters in this list), sources *must* identify/describe a lesbian character as a lesbian (or gay, or homosexual). They have to use the noun. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 08:42, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On the other half of that relationship, Radio Times did describe Eve of the Daleks as Yaz's gay awakening for the Thirteenth Doctor. So adding Yasmin Khan seems like it would be in order. Sideswipe9th (talk) 22:45, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What I found when I did a search of Yasmin Khan+Doctor Who is the repeated use of "gay" to describe a non-hetero relationship between the two. "Gay" is not being used to mean "lesbian". "Doctor Who: Fans rejoice as they claim Yaz is bisexual and in LOVE with the Time Lord after cryptic scene as they praise the PC series", "Doctor Who drops massive hint that a major character is bisexual", "Doctor Who Actor Mandip Gill Announces Her Support For Gay Relationship With Jodie Whittaker’s Doctor" (search for the word bisexual in the article). In LezWatch.TV, Yasmin Khan and The Doctor are described as "pansexual". Based on what I found, both The Doctor and Yasmin Khan belong in the List of bisexual characters in television. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 08:13, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can agree. I found a few more sources in Out Magazine, Gay Times, Digital Spy and CBR, but they seem to be saying she is "queer", but it seems that's about it. Historyday01 (talk) 12:49, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Queer" is such a mechanical label. It lumps everyone together as if distinctions do not exist, and renders the individual insignificant. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 11:44, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, I can agree with that. Historyday01 (talk) 12:36, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changing the alphabetical order of names to first name

I'm proposing a change in how the character names are organized in the list: from being alphabetized by surname (i.e. last name) to alphabetized by first name. I think this would make searching for characters easier for readers because unless a character in a TV series is known as (for example) "Mrs. Doe", and only goes by that moniker, they are usually addressed and known by their first name. Unless there is an objection to this change, I will make the re-alphabetizing edit. (And who knows ... maybe listing the names in this manner will make it easier for more editors to contribute to the list.) Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 10:22, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be fine with that change. Historyday01 (talk) 15:32, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll wait 10 days for more input, if any, and then will tackle the reorder. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 18:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]