Talk:List of ethnic slurs/Archive 12
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186.185.108.57 (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Coolperson177 (talk) 00:37, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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Hello,
I would like to add some Central-European slurs.
Čobol (Chobbol): Czech slur targeting Slovak people. Originating from Slovak phrase 'Čo bolo, to bolo' ('What happened, happened') reference (in slovak language): https://www.somvprahe.sk/forum/cobol
Čehún (Chehoon): Slovak slur targeting Czech people. Čehún means (in a derogatory way) 'Czech man'. reference (in czech language): http://www.hradec.org/gustav/nadavky.html
Best regards Osidor (talk) 01:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Unfortunately, those forum posts and that web blog don't really cut it as a reliable source. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 08:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Goyim has pejorative connotations? 7 May 2021
What exactly would those be and why isn't there any further description? I'll have you know that some people find this word to be more offensive than the N-word (I'd say it but I assume you're all deeply politically biased and can't handle it), even black individuals who understand its connotations will find it more offensive than the N-word. We know there are jews who say that word fully intending to associate us with cattle. Cattle! Like calling us subhuman! It's very offensive! And the kind of books you would cite to prove that point have some other interesting things to say, I might add. And lol at the snarky little message telling me to cite my comment, saying "websites and blogposts don't count". It's in the Talmud. The Talmud has been uploaded all over the web. For example: https://rense.com/general86/talmd.htm Or I can just link to one of a thousand other pages with quotes pulled from that egregiously vulgar work. Thanks, sorry for any antagonistic tone; I hope those level-headed of you understand how bad wikipedia's userbase is looking right now thanks to some very politically motivated mass editing. Borderline pseudo-intellectual if we want to match the tone this site has used against its detractors. 71.74.225.60 (talk) 03:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, "goy" is just Hebrew for "nation". It is used to refer to non-Jewish people because of the biblical quotes referring to "the nations other than Israel" and instructing Jews to "be a light unto the nations" by following Jewish mitzvot/laws such as the ten commandments and keeping kosher, etc.
- In other words, it's the same as calling non-Jewish people "the nations (other than Israel)". The rest is ignorance and projection, or just invention. 49.199.216.47 (talk)
- Thank you for your comment. The entry mentions that is can be benign. However both the second citation (Wolfthal 2004) and the Wikipedia article Goy mention that it can be derogatory/pejorative. That should be enough to have on this list. If you think the pejorative use is not real or mention of it is WP:UNDUE you should take that up at the article talk page for Talk:Goy, not here. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:20, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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HeydarISm (talk) 11:36, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I am extremely sorry for forgetting your instructions earlier on. I do not want to take away anything from the List of ethnic slurs, I just want to add another one, called 'Azer'. This is important because it has affected Azeris ever since the Soviet times. The word 'Azer' was made during the time of the USSR, which lasted from the 1920s to 1991. The insult was made as an offensive abbreviation, which is similar to an already shortened version for Azerbaijani, 'Azeri'. Adding it in will also help former-Soviet people accidentally using the word for a non-derogatory purpose. They can be educated by it, become aware ad pass that down to younger generations. Adding the word 'Azer' as an insult will help to prevent more racism from occurring and build more international awareness.
Kind regards, Heydar
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:36, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2021
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HeydarISm (talk) 11:28, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
There is another ethnic slur about my country that you should certainly add. The insult, 'Azer' is especially so, because it was made by the Soviets (It was most likely made between the years of around 1920 or later during the time of the USSR) for a short abbreviated term that has been deemed offensive. Azeris and former Soviet countries know today that it is an unacceptable insult against Azerbaijanis.
If we add it, we will be building awareness, and no accidental insults can ever happen (I noted this because 'Azer' is very similar to 'Azeri'. People will know for next time and, especially if they're Soviet or from Azerbaijan or a neighbouring country to it, they can pass it down to they young ones.
Kind regards, Heydar
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:37, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Gyopo is an ethnic slur? 11 May 2021
Depending on context the term "gyopo" may carry negative connotations in South Korea, but this is still the most widely employed term for the Korean diaspora. It seems a real stretch to categorize a word that is merely indelicate or whose political correctness has been called into question as a full-blown ethnic slur. It also bears noting that the Korea Herald article cited for support on this page does not describe the word as a slur, and even uses the term (!) in its headline and body text. 58.140.208.149 (talk) 15:02, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- The article section Korean diaspora#Terminology mentions it has negative connotations. Cultural significance is more important then then intensity of the slur in deciding what goes on this list. That said I do not know if listing it here is WP:UNDUE or not. While we cannot use internet discussions as citations we can see the significance from just searching for the word. It seems to be one of those words that is okay to use among friends, but not okay to use in certain circumstances. Given the amount of discussion about it it seems significant. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:48, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- I will confess to being a little confused by the standards here. The term "gyopo" does have critics but it is still the word most commonly used to refer to diasporic Koreans, in writing and in conversation. The best analogy to an English-speaking context might be the status of the term "black" in America when the push to change the lexicon to "African Americans" gained traction in the 1980s - certainly people were questioning the merit and validity of the term but that seems categorically different from operating as an ethnic slur. Regardless it seems a little backwards to me that editors on this page should have to demonstrate that a word is *not* a slur rather than the other way around, but perhaps I am misunderstanding the guidelines? 66.27.63.181 (talk) 22:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Nik
hello, I would like to add a slur to the list. "Nik" it is a slur for irish people and is used in America. it was created when the irish immigrated to America because of the potato famine in Ireland. I have no sources just speaking from exsprience. thank you, m.hill — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:2080:D690:553D:1AC5:AF4E:CB3F (talk)
- Actually, that word is "Mick", not "Nik". It comes from all the names beginning in Mc or Mac. 49.199.216.47 (talk)
- We still need a source. Operating from personal experience would be WP:OR. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:55, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
macacos macaquito
acho que macaco é um termo mundial para negros nao apenas americano na libia imitam macacos com zanjs na argentina se usa macaquito pra brasileiros no br acho que so em borneo chamavam holandeses de macacos por causa da especie local — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.181.142.31 (talk)
- If the slur just means monkey in the local language, then we would not put it on this list as it is too general. However if the term migrates to another language to be used as a slur, it might be okay to have on the list. We still need a source for this per WP:V. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:55, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2021
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Change "Bounty bar" location from United States to United Kingdom.
With regards to the term "Bounty Bar," I think that the Guardian article used as a source is being misinterpreted. The Bounty Bars are generally not widely available or known in the United States, so it struck me as odd the article states that this slur is from the United States. This is the source's mention of the term: "Like the insults 'coconut', 'Bounty bar' and their American equivalent 'Oreo' - all of which mean black on the outside and white on the inside - the racial determinism on which these insults are hinged is in the very worst tradition of identity politics." As I am interpreting it, "Bounty bar" refers to a domestic (UK) equivalent of the American term "Oreo." Jackb41797 (talk) 19:17, 31 May 2021 (UTC)Brandon Jackb41797 (talk) 19:17, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now: @Jackb41797: This seems to be your own original research. Unless you can quote the relevant bit of the article which makes clear that this is about a US or UK term, I don't think anything can be changed. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:57, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- The article Bounty (chocolate bar) does not mention the slur at all, but does imply the bar was originally distributed in the UK and Canada and is not distributed in the U.S currently. The citation for the slur says
Like the insults "coconut", "Bounty bar" and their American equivalent "Oreo" - all of which mean black on the outside and white on the inside - the racial determinism on which these insults are hinged is in the very worst tradition of identity politics.
This seems to imply "coconut" and "Bounty bar" are not American. I can not find a citation that specifically states or implies it was used prominently in the US so I will go ahead and change it to UK. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- The article Bounty (chocolate bar) does not mention the slur at all, but does imply the bar was originally distributed in the UK and Canada and is not distributed in the U.S currently. The citation for the slur says
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201.177.171.155 (talk) 05:22, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Please retired "Gringo" from the list because it is not a slur. Its a slang.
Not done The article gringo says it is offensive and is properly cited. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gringo cites several sources saying it is a slur. It is noted in the entry that it can be used neutrally. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:39, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2021
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Mayonnaise monkey is not a slur. White people are NOT oppressed. Please delete the section with that. 32.211.239.170 (talk) 04:34, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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"Coconut"
The article says this word refers to Hispanic people who "act white", but I've only ever heard it used referred to refer to Black people supposedly "acting White", certainly in England and Australia, such as at the 2011 London riots and to the point that there is a long-running comedy skit on Australian tv parodying the American show "Cops" called "Special Coconut Division", where Aboriginal police "crack coconuts" by hunting down Aboriginal people who have taken on supposedly "white" culture and traits such as owning a cheese knife. I
And though I'm not American, I'm sure I've heard it used to refer to Black people in American film & tv, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.216.47 (talk)
- Please supply a citation to a dictionary of published article that supports this. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 23:13, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Gaijin
If I'm not mistaken, the term Gaijin isn't necessarily a slur, as it's just the Japanese word for "foreigner". If I'm wrong, please correct me. Ryuto Setsujin (talk) 22:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- The article for Gaijin mentions the some consider it a slur and has 6 citations to support it. I think if some find it a slur and the word is culturally significant enough to have its own article then it should be on the list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:12, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Is guiri a slur?
I wouldn't exactly refer to the word "guiri" as a slur. It's often used in specific contexts when criticizing the behavior of Northwestern and Northern Europeans (usually tourists) in Spain, rather than stemming from a generalized racial hatred against these group of people. Horchatamivida (talk) 12:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)Horchatamivida
- I removed it. The citation and the article do not mention it being a slur. I did a quick Google search and all I found was a conversation where people were wondering why anyone would think it is a slur. Some people must think that any slang referring directly or indirectly to a person's ethnic is automatically a slur. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 01:52, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
"Coconut is a nut"
The entry for coconut states "Named after the coconut, the nut from the coconut palm." However, it's known that coconuts aren't really nuts. It should be rewritten to "Named after the coconut, the fruit from the coconut palm" or something similar. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Coconut — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.92.242.137 (talk)
- Per the article coconut it is a drupe, a type of fruit. So you are right. I just delete "the nut from the coconut palm . . ." completely. It doesn't need further description since people can just click on the link. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Chinese Virus & Kung Flu
Please add two terms to the ethnic slurs table- "Chinese Virus" & "Kung Flu"
Term: Chinese Virus Location or origin: United States Targets: Chinese People Meaning, origin: Ex-US President Trump called Coronovirus "Chinese Virus" in one of his March 16, 2020 tweets. There have been increasing anti-asian sentiments and violence since then. [1]
Term: Kung Flu Location or origin: United States Targets: Chinese People Meaning, origin: Ex-US President Trump called the disease caused by Coronovirus "Kung Flu" in a campaign rally at Tulsa, OK on June 20, 2020. The World Health Organization has advised against terms that link the virus to China to avoid stigmatization. [2]
68.238.186.244 (talk) 02:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)Shu-Chien Liang (shuchien.liang@gmail.com)
- I am a bit reluctant to add new slurs (neologisms) until there is evidence they are in common use and are likely to remain. WP:RECENTISM applies, but adding them here to a degree validates the slurs as cuturally significant when they are not. Trump makes up lots of nick names, most of them insulting. We are not going to list them all here. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 14:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
References
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The article has 'Southern Fairy' as an insult term used in the North of England for Southerners.
I'm from Lancashire and I've never used that - but we do say 'Southern Jessie' eg "you great, big Southern Jessie !"
So I'd suggest adding Southern Jessie as an alternative together with Southern Fairy 51.7.82.48 (talk) 22:52, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Prieto/s
A Mexican slur.
Targets: Black mexican people. (It's also used with Black Natives)
What means? A pejorative way to describe someone who is black (Moreno in Spanish)
Example: (English) I hate all prietos! Because they're all poor! (Spanish). Odio a los prietos! Porque todos son pobres.
Prieto = One person. Prietos = More than one people.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Erick With R (talk • contribs)
- Thank you, we will need a reliable source to verify this and to judge its significance before adding it. See WP:RS and WP:V. If you know of one please let us know. It does not have to be in English. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
mild slur in Yup'ik
I spent some time working in communities in the YK Delta, and one of the first words you learn as an outsider is Kass'aq (pronounced "guss-uck"), meaning white people. I found 2 refs that verify the meaning [1] [2](scroll way down to the K section). Trouble is, you will never get a Yup'ik person to actually admit this is anything more than just a way of identifying that you are speaking about white people. In my experience it is contextual, the speaker's tone, as with so many words, can change the intended meaning. I'm quite certain I heard it used as a derogatory term directed at me or my co-workers on more than one occasion. I guess what I'm asking is if maybe someone with better research skills/access can find anything indicating that? Beeblebrox (talk) 01:59, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- I found this article [3] with an interesting quote:
But the vast majority of sources that I lookd at simply defined it as "white person", derived from Cossack, without commenting on its connotation. DanCherek (talk) 05:41, 10 September 2021 (UTC)I asked a pair of boys about their future hopes for Piniq. One boy initially responded with the familiar echo, "All kass'aqs out of Piniq," then quickly glanced at me and followed up with, "except those kass'aqs who speak Yup'ik."
"Aggin" listed at Redirects for discussion
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On your page "list of ethnic slurs" under the S section in the chart of slurs, you need to include the word "savage." It's a racist slur that has been used against various Indigenous and African peoples and as a justification for colonialism. There are a lot of articles about this all over the web. 2600:8800:799C:9A00:F57F:79F7:7DE7:2458 (talk) 00:21, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:50, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Roske,roske
In the roske,roske slur, it should be roske, rosuke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.232.224.62 (talk)
- This was done, but "rosuke" was put first. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:28, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2021
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I would like to add this article [4] from Haaretz as a source for the Ashke-Nazi entry, as the article is in English while the current sources are in Hebrew. 73.168.5.183 (talk) 00:58, 13 November 2021 (UTC) 73.168.5.183 (talk) 00:58, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
"Hajji, Hadji, Haji"
Hello, Might I ask why we're keeping "Hajji, Hadji, Haji" as slurs in the article? I get its demeaning and derogatory usage within US military, but... that hasn't dissipated into society at large, as far as I know. Furthermore, I am from the very same region this "slur" refers to, and "Haji" isn't a slur, it's a term of respect, usually, to refer to a senior citizen in a polite matter. This particular native usage of the word is much more common than the derogatory way it is used in US military. So I don't really get why we are slurifying a word and in essence, legitimizing the US military's ruining of a decent and respectful word. BasilLeaf (talk) 00:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Pindos
Pindos (Пиндос) should be added - Russian derogatory term for Americans. Derivatives include Pindostan (Пиндостан) - USA (Land of the Pindos, hence the -stan) https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%81 77.219.7.20 (talk) 07:16, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia cannot source itself. Sundayclose (talk) 19:33, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Ranga (for redheads)
Short for orangutan, Its often used In australia and new zealand to describe people with red hair 218.185.231.85 (talk) 02:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 03:42, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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66.68.120.170 (talk) 21:33, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
|Redneck |United States |White American People (mainly in the southeast) |- |-
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LakesideMinersCome Talk To Me! 15:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- I think it's pretty clear that IP66 is suggesting that the term "Redneck" should be added. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
Coconut
A term used for dark colored white people. 111.94.150.48 (talk) 15:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Do you have any source(s)? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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In the source of the term/slur 'Limey', it is nowhere stated or found that this term originated in The Netherlands. Change 'United States, Netherlands' to 'United States'. 2A02:A213:2584:4700:A407:D3A9:26C1:139 (talk) 18:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:32, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Um, currently there's no source for either United States OR Netherlands, so strictly speaking BOTH should be removed. But I think most people would assume US. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:34, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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just as an addition: Bing bong is used in Australia to denote indians and south east asians 124.187.145.236 (talk) 09:17, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. melecie t - 10:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Kalia, Kalu
The notes section of this part does not read as a Wikipedia article should. it is unprofessional. other notes sections also seem to have this issue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassie Schebel (talk • contribs) 03:49, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Spanish racist slurs
I believe you are missing some Spanish ethnic slurs. You have them nicely listed in here, in number 10: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Spanish_profanity . I'm sure there are other pages like this one for other languages worth checking out. I'm Spanish and most of them are accurate. I say most of them because I can't speak for south-americans. 29 December 2021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.133.75.90 (talk) 21:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 14 December 2021
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: No consensus - On the one side, there is a perceived increase in accuracy in the proposed move, on the other this is interpreted as potentially changing the scope of the article and making it potentially redundant and also introducing an ambiguity as to whether something listed here is a slur or not. With three supports to two opposes, this is also a numerical deadlock. The lack of recent voting makes a re-list unnecessary. (non-admin closure) FOARP (talk) 09:43, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
List of ethnic slurs → List of ethnic slurs and epithets – There are lot of words in this list that are mostly epithets with little or no pejorative use, so moving it to this name would be better description of this list. Panda619 (talk) 07:17, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Support - My first thought was that will increase the size of the list and make it unwieldy. However there are already articles for list of nicknames and such. Those could be merged and split to "List of ethnic slurs and epithets for (specific ethnic)". This list could potentially sorted by ethnic and merged with "List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity", and then large sections could be split out so we do not have duplicate lists all over the place. We do not need an alphabetical list, that is what Wiktionary is for. In fact, we could save time and merge them now. I would support that. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:21, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- No objection, although List of ethnic terms and slurs might be simpler. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Support For no other reason than that it's more accurate. ― TaltosKieronTalk 21:40, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose We already have a List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity, which would make this a WP:REDUNDANTFORK by implication if you rename it. Instead, this list should contain terms that fit the page title as it is today, and epithets without pejorative use should be excluded. AlexEng(TALK) 00:00, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Actually List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity was renames by the OP from List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity. It has always been there. It is suppose to have all the same content, but sorted by ethnicity. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:25, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- That doesn't change my argument. We don't need two pages for the same exact topic in order to effect sorting. Sorting can be done technically by introducing sortable table columns. AlexEng(TALK) 19:54, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Actually List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity was renames by the OP from List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity. It has always been there. It is suppose to have all the same content, but sorted by ethnicity. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:25, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose for the reasons described by AlexEng. Sundayclose (talk) 02:04, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - I also question whether the list includes "a lot" of words with no pejorative use. "A little" pejorative use is irrelevant; even it's used pejoratively by some people, it's a slur. For example, some people think use of the n-word by a select group of people in certain circumstances is not pejorative. Even if those people are correct, that doesn't mean the word is not pejorative. We open a can of worms if we try to tease out how pejorative a word needs to be to include it in the list. In general, if a reliable source identifies the word as pejorative, slur, insult (or a similar description), or if no editor objects (thus it goes to talk page), it should remain in the article. Sundayclose (talk) 16:05, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- I agree that if a word has sufficient pejorative connotations to have a citation that mentions it, then it should be listed. However it leaves Wikipedia in the role or sorting the "good" words (Lists of nicknames) and "bad" words (this list). I would like to see them merged together so we are not making that distinction. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:25, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - I also question whether the list includes "a lot" of words with no pejorative use. "A little" pejorative use is irrelevant; even it's used pejoratively by some people, it's a slur. For example, some people think use of the n-word by a select group of people in certain circumstances is not pejorative. Even if those people are correct, that doesn't mean the word is not pejorative. We open a can of worms if we try to tease out how pejorative a word needs to be to include it in the list. In general, if a reliable source identifies the word as pejorative, slur, insult (or a similar description), or if no editor objects (thus it goes to talk page), it should remain in the article. Sundayclose (talk) 16:05, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
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I would like somebody to add this article from the Huffington Post as a source to the Ashkenazi entry on the page, reflecting the usage of 'Ashke-Nazi' outside of Israel as a slur against Ashkenazi Jews. 73.168.5.183 (talk) 22:25, 5 January 2022 (UTC) 73.168.5.183 (talk) 22:25, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Three sources are enough. I don't think one use of a word by a small-town local radio personality is enough the add another citation. See WP:CITEKILL. Sundayclose (talk) 02:55, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Turkroach for Turks, also update on Keko and Mountain Turks
I'd also like to suggest this now widespread word "Turkroach," which most people use as derogatory word against Turkish people. It came from derogatory meaning already, but because it was used in meme pages for a while, most people now have no shame to use it so easily against Turkish people.
About keko, it is not used as a derogatory word for Kurdish men. Keko means "brother" in Kurdish, however in popular culture, it has become a style to describe a certain group of people, like "gopniks" in Russia, "chavs" in the UK, "rednecks" or "Karens" in the USA. Most of kekos tend to come from South or Eastern Anatolia, where the Kurdish population is dense, however this word has no ethnic target. Therefore, it is not an ethnic slur.
Turkish government did not make up "mountain Turks" word, it has been widely used on meme platforms to mock how some ultra nationalists in Turkey tend to call everyone as "Turks." 2A02:A319:8238:7F80:E5D9:30A3:12:ABB4 (talk) 03:11, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
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BOSCH for germans
BOSCH was the on the back of some of the german trucks during wwII in France,hence the BOSCH.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.191.138.102 (talk)
- Boche was widely used in WW1 by the French for Germans, so it is unlikely that the occasional appearance of equipment during WW2 plays any rule in its etymologie. ASchudak (talk) 08:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
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The term "Boofer" is fairly well used for African Americans, interchangeable with nigger, in America, specific to Maryland area. Often among the Baby Boomer generation. 173.81.237.246 (talk) 03:08, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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Some other slurs that may be used Darkie, Sand Nigger(Indian), and 8 ball. If you say Hail hitler the species may be offended. Cmcarro (talk) 03:26, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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Under 'G' - gerry rigged or gery rigged - means poorly and/or quickly engineered as if by Germans. This slur came about during or after WWII. 204.14.62.116 (talk) 13:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
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Köterrasse (Hound-Race)
Germany
Europeans and other light-skinned people
Used by Germans of Arbaic and Turkish descent to insult whites.
https://www.welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article162442610/Deutsche-duerfen-ungestraft-Koeterrasse-genannt-werden.html
Kartoffel
Germany
Europeans and other light-skinned people
Used by non-European immigrants in Germany to insult whites, especially Germans
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Kartoffel
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Wog (Commonwealth) "may also be a term of endearment"
I think that citing a racial slur such as "Wog" or any other slur as a term of "endearment" when the race that the slur was intended for starts using it as a way of creating solidarity among the community does not make the term "endearing" any more than the Black Americans who use the word "Nigga" among each other does not make that term "endearing". It is a way for people who are effected by that slur to, sort of, water it down and turn it on the offenders who use it. The use of a racial slur among people who it was used against should never mistake the slur for an endearing term. I suggest we remove this line from the wiki section: "While potentially offensive, it may also be a term of endearment (such as in the 2000 movie The Wog Boy)."
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- I'm somewhat perplexed why me, a Greek Australian needs to 'cite' why a word that historically has been used as a racial slur is in fact a racial slur, but hey whatever, here you go: https://www.huffpost.com/archive/au/entry/its-not-okay-to-call-me-a-wog_a_21471575 Paokara777 (talk) 03:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Looking into it further, it seems that the original Note section next to WOG for the Commonwealth explanation does not have any citation, so it does not qualify to be added to the article at all. I will update with some relevant and correct information and include citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paokara777 (talk • contribs) 04:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm somewhat perplexed why me, a Greek Australian needs to 'cite' why a word that historically has been used as a racial slur is in fact a racial slur, but hey whatever, here you go: https://www.huffpost.com/archive/au/entry/its-not-okay-to-call-me-a-wog_a_21471575 Paokara777 (talk) 03:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Add Tojo as an American racial slur against Japanese. There already is a wikipedia source: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment#In_English Unlucky mosquito (talk) 12:20, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
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Missing slurs: “Privileged, Racist, Nazi”
Several of the most popular slurs from a bygone era are now used to demean or discredit white people, especially pro-law/constitution whites, in the absence of facts and without evidence: “Racist, Nazi, White, Privileged, Supremacist, Proud Boy, Deplorable, Truther, T-bagger.” Additional false slurs used to silence these whites are, ironically: “without evidence”, “misinformation”, and “disinformation”, which are intended to counter the term “fake news” made popular in 2016 by Donald J. Trump. The demeaning term “lawman”, used in a song to decry lynchings by southern Democrats, is now reflected in anti-white, anti-police racial attitudes stoked by Antifa and BLM, two arms of a Soros-financed political movement created to stoke the fires of “reverse racism” 50.54.128.21 (talk) 00:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- HAHAHAHA ― Tuna NoSurprisesPlease 01:23, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Seems you've got a grudge against George Soros, amongst (quite a few) others? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:39, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Racial slur
Kyke- Jewish people . 70.118.170.144 (talk) 22:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Please add the racial slur 'Gammon' which is aimed at white middle aged males because when they get angry, their faces go the same color as a type of cooked pig's meat known as Gammon ElysseumFields (talk) 18:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Respectfully request that you add “jezebel;” used by white people, directed at black women who are promiscuous, overly social, or slutty. It was used in “To Kill a Mockingbird.” 2600:1004:B142:9360:5929:9F6A:F0DA:3E5 (talk) 15:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
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Kolorad
Kolorad is not an ethnic slur, it refers to a political camp of rashists, primarily Donbass seperatists of any ethnicity and citizenship. [[5]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.90.11.28 (talk) 20:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Not done the entry is sourced appropriately per WP:V. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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Daatj: Derogatory term used my Lapps / Sami people refereeing to a white person. Laedtie: Lapp / sami language. White person, generally not offensive - but it might be due to context.
2: Entry: Lapp 'The word itself means "patch."' Completely incorrect, and Lapland do not mean 'patched land' either. But it's simply referring to Lapland area. And SOME of the Sami people consider it derogatory. Please delete that short sentence. 31.208.187.214 (talk) 07:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Not done the entry is sourced appropriately per WP:V. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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Add "Untermensch" 107.77.209.36 (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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(Suggestion for an addition) Dipper - A Slur referring to people from India or Pakistan. Generally used to refer to Indian/Pakistani Immigrants.
(I'm someone with Indian descent and this slur is commonly used in Canada and also U.S.A) DBGz (talk) 03:33, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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Ginger
For too long us redheads have had to deal with this slur and rude stereotypes and articles about us, #itsourword 2601:442:4300:5CB0:ADEC:D0AD:495:518C (talk) 00:52, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- It would be a stretch to present redheads as an ethnic, since they do not a separate cultural background. However slurs against them are documented on Wikipedia at Discrimination against people with red hair#Slurs and derogatory terms including "ginger". Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:28, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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Term: Madrasi Location or origin: North India Targets: South Indian People Meaning, origin and notes: Originally used to refer to people of Madras (now Tamil Nadu) References Ghers124d (talk) 05:16, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- source: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Madrasi Ghers124d (talk) 05:17, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Not done for now:Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source. If there are reliable sources in that article you may reuse them here. Meters (talk) 06:44, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Madrasi has been discussed before on this page. Talk:List of ethnic slurs/Archive 9#madrasi is not included as a slur, Talk:List of ethnic slurs/Archive 10#Madrassi, and Talk:List of ethnic slurs/Archive 10#Madrassi again. It was removed by Capitals00 (talk · contribs) with this edit. We discussed it until I got tired of discussing it and left it out. I still think it should be on the list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:52, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
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This page was vandalized by the user User:My very best wishes back in 2021, removing ethnical slurs [Russki] and [Rusnya]. The first one was reverted by User:Richard-of-Earth, but the second one was forgotten. You should add ethnic slur "Rusnya" back to the list. Reliable source was present.
Not done The edit summary by User:My very best wishes was "
word used by one man
". This seems to be a valid objection. Do you have any source(s) which shows the slur has more widespread use? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Additional source - https://www.google.com.ua/books/edition/Russia_s_Islamic_Threat/cSGFhTEP49IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=rusnya+ethnic+slur&pg=PA86&printsec=frontcover WikiChinChilla (talk) 23:57, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Blackie, Blacky
It's come to my attention recently that this is now known as a derogatory term towards black people. Just as whitey is apparently derogatory to white people. 71.87.68.122 (talk) 22:58, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- See Blackie, Blackie (nickname) and Blackie (surname). Also https://www.dictionary.com/browse/blacky . I have heard it used as a slur, but only by children and really old people. It lacks the notoriety of Whitey (slang), so I am.neutral on adding it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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so i noticed that words such as "pablo escobar" "coke dealer" "dealer" and "cofee" to discrimintate against colombians arent here and i personally feel like words like those should be included to discriminate colombians cause they deserve the recognition 2603:8000:D03:7DB8:38DB:E1C1:AEF9:85EE (talk) 04:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Is there a news article or non-fiction book that discusses the use of these words to slur Columbians? We do not add items to this list without a citation. See WP:UNSOURCED. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Can you pls add Yugo. It's common said in Austria, and from Yugo Fans across the Balkan.
. 84.115.64.168 (talk) 20:31, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Is there a news article or non-fiction book that discusses the use of these words to slur a particular ethnic group? We do not add items to this list without a citation. See WP:UNSOURCED. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
nigger
a slur to black people 108.84.203.103 (talk) 19:48, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is on the list.Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Knuckle dragger
Why isn't this term under K? I've heard it used in racist reference to people with skin that isn't white (African, latino, indian, etc,) as a call back to racist comparisons to monkeys. And i know I'm not the only one who's heard it used this way. 2600:1007:B029:D500:A706:F6A9:F2CD:9A6C (talk) 15:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- Every dictionary I looked in does not mention "Knuckle dragger" as an ethnic slur. See https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/knuckle_dragger . Can you present a magazine article somewhere that mentions its use as an ethnic slur? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I've only seen it used as a non-ethnic insult, applied regardless of race or ethnicity. Meters (talk) 08:45, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Perker, used in Denmark about immigrants
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Add word "perker". It's used in Denmark and targets immigrants with Middle-Eastern or Arabic origin in Denmark, but sometimes it's used for (non-Western) immigrants in general. It's a contraction of the Danish words "PERser" (Persian) and "tyrKER" (Turk). The word is sometimes used by some immigrants themselves as an identity marker, very much like the word nigger sometimes being used by black people themselves in the USA.
From Danish wikipedia: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perker 185.229.154.61 (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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under the word balija u got the place of origin worng it originated in serbia during the yugoslav wars 176.76.248.243 (talk) 20:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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Missing one
Missing Hohol what Russians call Ukrainian. 2A04:4A43:41DF:E32B:992:C3E2:542:4512 (talk) 03:32, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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- It's already on the list: see "Khokhol". Finstergeist (talk) 21:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Cracker
Is cracker a slur?
(Personally I don’t think it is because in order for something to be a slur it has to have history behind it. The only race that has not been through any major events of racism is Caucasian.) Let me know your opinion. 173.2.24.80 (talk) 19:37, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Cracker is used pejoratively regarding white people, I believe that you don't need any major historical events regarding its use for the word to be considered a slur. Dragovich23 (talk) 16:40, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
See Cracker (term). If you you still feel it is not a slur it should be taken up on that talk page. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Please add the word "czarnuch"
This is a polish slur aimed at black people, its meaning is exactly the same as "nigger". [1] Dragovich23 (talk) 16:37, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
References
Dutch slurs
Jappen = plural of jap, referring to Japanese people. Originated in the war in Indonesia where Japanese invaded and had forced labour and prison/containment camps that elder Dutch-Indonesians refer to as "JappenKampen". Mainly used in discussion about war.
Poep-chinees = refers to a darker skinned Chinese person or elderly Chinese person, not commonly used anymore.
Spleetoog = very derogatory, referring to any asian with slanted or thin eyes. 2001:1C04:481:CA00:D56D:65CA:2C01:608C (talk) 09:51, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestions. We do not add words to the list without a citation to support them. See WP:UNSOURCED, WP:V and WP:RS. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
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Delete the "karen" slur. No one recognized this as a slur. Tehe mageddon (talk) 21:59, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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I think that the “Snowflake” should not be put as a slur used against white people. I’m not a 1900s expert but i can say with certainty that nowadays Snowflake is said against anyone who has an opinion that (usually the right) considers to be a “sensitive” one Ex: “I think that people should wear masks because it helps keep people safe” “well looky here we have ourselves a special little Snowflake ❄️“ IAmNotGoodWithUsernames (talk) 23:00, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Not done for now: This is actually a controversial edit, so you'll need to discuss first with other editors. Please open a new section here and start a discussion. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:04, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
latinx
Latinos absolutely detest "latinx", a term used exclusively by non-latinos 79.72.58.10 (talk) 23:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Please add savages
As a Native American I cannot count how many times my people have been called this. I feel like that should be on this list because white people would call us that because we "acted like wild animals" when my ancestors would fight with the white settlers. Clay.Roses (talk) 22:21, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think that's a very fair suggestion. Sources should be easy to find. It's had a very long currency. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:23, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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Under "Ethnic Slurs," the expression "honky" appears. The origin of this expression is well known to those of us growing up in the mid thirties in the deep south. A common method of getting workers to agricultural fields in the late 19th and early 20th century was for a landowner to drive into a neighborhood where workers lived and "honk" his car horn to alert workers to come out and get in. Hence, the owners were referred to as "honkies." Tonyrivesamelia (talk) 14:25, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have any good written source for that? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:39, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Amusing piece of folk etymology there. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 15:15, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Karen
How did this one get here? Women are not at ethnicity, it may be a slur but it definitely doesn't fit here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2F01:8516:B000:5587:8001:1A7E:7C5E (talk) 16:10, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- The article Karen (slang) and the citation given mention it targets white women. However I am still on the fence about it. See previous discussion Talk:List of ethnic slurs/Archive 11#Karen meme. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:16, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Lol1VNIO: tried to remove it, but I put it back. I feel there has been several people who felt it was ethnic and several who say it is not. However since the Karen (slang) article mentions it targets white women and has a section on it being racist and it is cited, then it should be listed here so the articles agree. Generally this page does not get enough discussion to show consensus about these on the fence words and they are better discussed on a word's article page then here. This way items do not get removed because of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:36, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well another person removed it. The citation was to an opinion column and that did not seem a good source. Given the number of people who have asked for its removal, we should wait for more clarity. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:43, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Some say that it is an ethnic slur, and some say that it is not. That is probably true of many of the items on the list. Roger (talk) 03:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- I removed it because there was only one low-quality source, not because I do or do not consider it an ethnic slur (it isn’t in my opinion, because it’s about a type of behavior from white women and not white women, but YMMV) Dronebogus (talk) 04:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Some say that it is an ethnic slur, and some say that it is not. That is probably true of many of the items on the list. Roger (talk) 03:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well another person removed it. The citation was to an opinion column and that did not seem a good source. Given the number of people who have asked for its removal, we should wait for more clarity. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:43, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Lol1VNIO: tried to remove it, but I put it back. I feel there has been several people who felt it was ethnic and several who say it is not. However since the Karen (slang) article mentions it targets white women and has a section on it being racist and it is cited, then it should be listed here so the articles agree. Generally this page does not get enough discussion to show consensus about these on the fence words and they are better discussed on a word's article page then here. This way items do not get removed because of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:36, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
pariah
a slur to dark coloured Indians, used in India and as an insulting phrase in English speaking countries. The real meaning is usually unknown to the masses, and the word actually originates from the Indian caste system which classified pariahs as "untouchables" due to their skin colour. Pimlokto (talk) 14:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- We need a citation, but probably one could be found at Paraiyar. There is no mention of skin color. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:34, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Bozgor
Derogatory term used by romanians toweards hungarians 109.98.142.14 (talk) 14:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Already on the list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:21, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Meleis adding citation
Heya so created an account to just give the origins of Meleis for Malay people slur. https://web.archive.org/web/20091110013049/https://obefiend.blogspot.com/2009/11/meleis-asthe-niggers-of-malays.html . The term came form a Malay blogger and was intended to be used against Malays that have socially unacceptable behaviours. The original website is posted in Malay language though. TypicalMalay (talk) 01:02, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Inselaffen
Commonly used in Germany for British people 95.91.247.92 (talk) 21:23, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Inselaffen = german for "island monkey". Seems no different then "pig" or "dog". We avoid listing common slurs Also need a citation. See WP:UNSOURCED. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Vatnik Removal
Both sources provided suggest that vatnik is not an ethnic slur, but a pejorative for people with a particular set of political views.
"Fictional Rashka became a provocative symbol of vulgar and xenophobic Russian patriot. Using the image of Rashka, liberal oriented internet users taunt real xenophobes into having a fit of hysterics."
"In his post Nossik makes use of pejorative ethnonyms that have become pervasive in the discourse of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. While moskal’ and katsap have been used as ethnic slurs for a long time, vatnik and ukrop, standing for pro-Russian and pro-Ukrainian supporters respectively, are innovations which have gained popularity in the last two or three years." Disconnected Phrases (talk) 20:31, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Vatnik originated in Russia as a term well before the Russo-Ukrainian war. If anything, people that use the term "vatnik" the most are Russians themselves. It's political, not ethnic. Underfell Flowey (talk) 05:45, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- I agree. Vatnik is not “on the basis of race, ethnicity, or nationality,” as defined at the top of the list. It refers to people of a “Soviet mindset,” and is used by and for people of various ethnic groups. —Michael Z. 22:12, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Orc
This is not an ethnic term. It is used by Ukrainians to describe invading Russian Federation military generally, including Russian and other mercenaries, in a force that is disproportionately non-ethnic Russian,[6][7][8] (and possibly including the Russian-led “DLNR” proxy republic forces in Ukraine).
The cited source[9] says the referrent is “Russian invaders,” “their [Ukrainian victims of Russia’s war] invaders,” “the invaders of their land,” those “wreaking havoc in the towns and villages of Ukraine,” “Ukrainians calling Russians ‘orcs’,” and “Putin and his troops.” I believe the single reference to “Russians” can be accepted as shorthand for the Russian citizens that invaded as is made explicit in every other mention, and it appears in a speculative tangent about a Russian novel. The source doesn’t even hint that the name is used for ethnic Russians specifically or outside of the context of invading forces, and does not say “Russians, citizens of the Russian Federation” as stated in our table before I edited it.
I don’t believe this is not an ethnic slur, in much the same way that, for example, jarhead for a member of the US Marines, or Brownshirt for a member of Hitler’s storm troopers, are not ethnic epithets. —Michael Z. 22:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Kolorad
This has been discussed previously:
According to the extant reference,[10] “today Ukrainians might call the invading Russians колорады (Colorados).” Sounds like it means Russian Federation soldiers in Ukraine, which is not the same as ethnic Russian).[11][12][13]
I added two more:
- NY Times story which describes the 2014 Odesa clashes, which involved Russian-speaking Ukrainians of indeterminate ethnicity from Ukraine as both the user and target of the insulting term aimed at “pro-Russian militants” or “pro-Russians.”
- RFE/RL story that defines the target as “pro-Russian separatists,” and specifically “Ukraine's pro-Russia separatists” and “separatist troops.”
This insult is about militant pro-Russia politics, or more specifically Russian ultranationalism, imperialism, and violence. It has been used against militant Ukrainian and Russian citizens. But it is not “on the basis of race, ethnicity, or nationality.” No cited source says this term means either “ethnic Russian,” “Russian citizen,” or “Russian national.” I think it is not an ethnic slur for the same reason Nazi isn’t a slur meaning “German” nor fascist one meaning “Italian.” —Michael Z. 22:08, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @Richard-of-Earth, who participated in earlier discussions. —Michael Z. 22:09, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- I have not changed my mind since the last discussion. Why is is so important to you that it be removed? Every word on this list can be used in ways that is not a slur and/or not ethnic. Why should this one be treated different? Again, I do not see a consensus to remove and reason to think it should stay. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- The sources do not support the assertion that this is an ethnic slur for Russians. The WP:BURDEN is on you to verify the assertion with a source that actually says it. Why is it so important to you that this remain despite the lack of verifiability? —Michael Z. 15:01, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- I have not changed my mind since the last discussion. Why is is so important to you that it be removed? Every word on this list can be used in ways that is not a slur and/or not ethnic. Why should this one be treated different? Again, I do not see a consensus to remove and reason to think it should stay. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Ikea Balls (Ikea Bollar)
This is a slur for Swedish people. It is high offensive and is not recommended to say to a Swedish individual. This slur originated in North America in the early 2000s. As a Swede myself, I have never heard people say this slur until a few years ago. I was visiting the US and as a proud swede, I had some Swedish branded clothing. All of the sudden, while I was walking on the street. A group of 10 men approached me, and started calling me the slur. Not only that they also told me to kill myself and more. We really need to give this slur more recognition as it is not known to be offensive. That is all I have to say, stay safe. Peachypeachypeachy (talk) 19:40, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Got any sources other than "someone said it to me"? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 22:24, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- And then everyone clapped? KetchupSalt (talk) 10:11, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Ustaša
A slur pointed at croats by serbs (before keyboard warrios hang me i am a serb) 188.120.97.96 (talk) 17:05, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Adding ustaše sounds like adding Nazi to the list.. KetchupSalt (talk) 17:30, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Galego
That one is missing. Its used to refer to any spanish person by the argentines,uruguayans and so on here in S.America.
I guess it counts idk 2804:D55:4355:9600:15B7:7CC:6973:FA06 (talk) 21:55, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, however we need a citation to add this. See WP:UNSOURCED. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:32, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
pobucker
a slur for white people , or "hillbillies" in general https://www.definder.net/po'bucker/ Nboneparte (talk) 16:38, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- We'll need more sourcing than that. Definder sources urban dictionary, which itself is not a reliable source. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 18:33, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Goyim
Goyim is not a slur or epithet; it is not and has never been offensive. Anonfromtumblr (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Take it up at the article Goy where it says in the lead it is used "sometimes with a pejorative sense" and has a whole section Goy#As a slur. Plus we have citations to support it being on this list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:35, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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Add "azik", originated in Russia, an ethnic slur for Azerbaijanis. Source: https://ijclinic.law.uci.edu/2021/07/03/decoding-intent-in-two-seemingly-contradictory-facebook-oversight-board-decisions-on-hate-speech/ 85.132.96.210 (talk) 11:12, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- I have tried to compse an entry, the link above and the decision it cites has little about who uses the word. Here is what I got:
Term Location or origin Targets Meaning, origin and notes References Ázik (азик) Russia Azerbaijanis An Azerbaijani person, clipped from Азербайджанец [1]
- Can you find a citation that says who uses this in any language. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:44, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Armenians in Azerbaijan". Oversight Board.
Gusano
It’s listed and cited on this page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs_by_ethnicity#Cubans and seems to fit the criteria for this list. Should it be included? 98.156.178.143 (talk) 08:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Done Thanks. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:35, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- This was reverted may, related to https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:List_of_ethnic_slurs_and_epithets_by_ethnicity#Gusano_-_Ethnic_and_Political_slur section and the next. Not sure what protocol is for wiki and outside community drama. 68.102.82.98 (talk) 20:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
How does a Cuban, who stood by and led the Cuban people and served them for his entire life invent an anti-Cuban term? It should not be included, as it is used to refer to an ethnic group. Tankpiggy18 (talk) 17:50, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
Edit request
Add "transnistrian", used in English and some other languages as an slur/insult for Pridnestrovians. Used quite often. 217.19.215.113 (talk) 23:00, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Seems dubious, as we have a longstanding article Transnistria about the Russian-occupied geographical region in Moldova. Either way, please suggest the text, supported by reliable sources, and gain consensus for the edit. —Michael Z. 17:36, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- The fact that someone created a Wikipedia article with that title and someone believes that this is an "occupied region" does not change the fact that the word is offensive to the inhabitants of this region. As sources I can offer: 1, 2, 3, 4. 217.19.215.93 (talk) 11:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- We do not want this article to be a WP:POVFORK. Until the article Transnistria (or Pridnestrovie if it is moved there) says it is an slur, this article should not say that. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:02, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- The fact that someone created a Wikipedia article with that title and someone believes that this is an "occupied region" does not change the fact that the word is offensive to the inhabitants of this region. As sources I can offer: 1, 2, 3, 4. 217.19.215.93 (talk) 11:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
"Sápmi" is mispelled and 'Lapland' is also the name of Sweden's most northern province.
Hey guys sorry i cant edit yet the page is semi-locked can someone fix this for me k thx (unsure about the sapmi thing, is it spelled like that in english?) MisterBastian (talk) 12:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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The term "WOP" was derived from the fact some immigrants came to this county without any official birth certificates and/or paper work from their birth country and would be declared "Without Papers (WOP)" on arrival in any U.S. goverment forms until properly declared a legal citizen of the United States of America. 71.162.147.95 (talk) 03:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
- See Wop#False etymologies. This is not where this word came from. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:02, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Oreo...
...has also been used as a slur directed at biracial (black and white) people, though I do not know with what prevalence. 137.118.200.132 (talk) 21:30, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, I may have missed it, but I don’t see in your list of the word “slave” used to insult and denigrate members of the Slovene indigenous minority which lives in the autonomous region of Friuli Venezia Giulia, in the north-east of Italy. I will translate the word for you in English; the word in the Italian language is “schiavo”. However, the commonly used term is “sciavo”, which is the local dialect.
This minority is recognised by the Italian central government, which granted the minority several rights. Unfortunately, nothing has ever been done by the central or local government to address ‘ethnic slurs”.
If you require more information, please feel free to ask.
Kind regards 93.70.70.51 (talk) 09:15, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. If you have a source for this, link to it here and reopen the request or make a new one then Cannolis (talk) 09:20, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Cest/Caise Farang
"Farang" is an entry in itself under "F" - but when I was looking for a citation for "Cest Farang" under the "C" category I found absolutely nothing - nothing on the "Farang" Wikipedia article, nothing in journals and nothing even on the front page of Google. Should "Cest Farang" be removed as its own separate entry, with "Farang" being a sufficient entry? Both entries are similar, but "Farang" has better sources and its own article V3ganf3lix (talk) 10:22, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- lacking a citation, I see no reason to keep it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:23, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
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Add “Orangoutang” as an ethnic slurs towards gingers and Irish people. 2600:1012:B0C0:BB6D:55CD:CEDF:D978:E38F (talk) 19:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 19:54, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Willy 82.6.240.225 (talk) 13:37, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RealAspects (talk) 13:43, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Eskimo
"The word Eskimo is an offensive term that has been used historically to describe the Inuit throughout their homeland, Inuit Nunangat, in the arctic regions of Alaska, Greenland and Canada, as well as the Yupik of Alaska and northeastern Russia, and the Inupiat of Alaska. Considered derogatory in Canada, the term was once used extensively in popular culture and by researchers, writers and the general public throughout the world." [14]https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/eskimo Spursbob (talk) 14:26, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- It appears to be only derogatory in the sense that (1) the Inuits prefer the term Inuit; and (2) the Inuits do not like being lumped together with other tribes. A better source is needed. Roger (talk) 20:42, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- There’s nothing wrong with the source. Derogatory is derogatory. How hard is it to understand that if someone intentionally calls you by a racial name you don’t accept, that is derogatory use as a slur. —Michael Z. 21:01, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's only derogatory because it's considered derogatory, thank you for the very insightful comment. The source seems fine, if you disagree please provide a reason beyond just saying so.XeCyranium (talk) 00:42, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm puzzled how such an offensive word as the e word is not listed here, when there's so many very mild words that are here.(limey? Pom, yank?). And good grief - Pak? How is that any more a slur than Brit or Anglo? You can't look at an English-language Pakistani paper without seeing the word used - normally in a headline on the front page. Here is an example from today that I found on the front page of the first Pakistani newspapers I checked - the Pakistan Observer! - I'll remove that one, which is just bizarre. I'd have thought "Dutch" for people from the Netherlands would be more of a slur (not that it is). Nfitz (talk) 20:19, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
Canadian Oxford Dictionary 2004 says it has been superseded by Inuit, but does not label it. The Oxford dictionaries 2010/2021 say it has come to be regarded as offensive, but in the US remains the only term properly understood as applying to the people of the Arctic people as a whole, and is still widely used in anthropology and archaeology.
It should be listed here, with usage notes. —Michael Z. 21:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see what USA has usage has to do with it, and I say that without even taking into account how many hardcore racists are in that nation! That 2004 entry was unchanged from the previous entry published last century - and was grossly out-of-date even then. The original Secretary of State style guide in from 1985 notes that the E word shouldn't be used (the only other word in this category was the ne* word ... I guess they felt it unnecessary to mention the ni* word). I'm not sure why there was no warning in the Canadian Oxford in the 1990s, let alone 2004. Compare to the 2003 Globe and Mail Style Book, which very clearly says that only Inuit is acceptable to refer to people, and that the E word is pejorative (to refer to people). It does note that in other places, other words are used locally, such as Inuvialuit, Katladlit, and Yuit - and that's two decades ago!
- Also, the E word certainly doesn't refer to people of the Arctic as a whole; the Inuit only started migrating from Europe and western Alaska about 1000 years ago, displacing the now extinct Tunit. Furthermore, there are a LOT of other First nations in the Arctic, especially the Dene peoples (other than the Apache and Navajo who migrated much further south around 600 years ago).
- To get back to the point though, even in Alaska, the E word is fading. And even 6 years ago prominent US media organizations were recommending that the E-word not be used by those who aren't native to the Arctic. Nfitz (talk) 06:28, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you can provide more precise citations to those sources that would be helpful. —Michael Z. 15:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Racial Asian slurs
Tree monkey referring to sth East Asians PowerPoint referring to far East Asians. This is in reference to the Australian style PowerPoint I guess. Both I learned in australia 27.32.22.193 (talk) 07:34, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you can find some citation that supports this, we can add it to the article. If it is not published in a reliable source, then it is most likely too obscure to include. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:07, 23 December 2022 (UTC)