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This is designed to catalogue solely the railways of the geographical island of Ireland, plus any islands (Achill Island, Cóbh Island, Valencia Island).

As this is a list, which is wholey dupilicated into one list, i request that for this list only, each station to be entered only once, under the name it was most recently known as.

Two things i've amended and i'll explain why. One, Athlone. In this list, the column makes it clear it's an MGW station, and in the article, it is clear from the name Athlone railway station (Midland Great Western).

Two, the station i believe (though my notes are at home) was orignially called Aylwardstown, but then ended up as Glenmore and Aylwardstown from 1890 (off top of my head), as the Dublin stations are referred to by their most recent (and current names) this shall be universal (im hoping). In the Glenmore and Aylwardstown article, an Aylwardstown redirect to Glenmore and Aylwardstown would be appropriate Halowithhorns89 (talk) 17:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this aproach, of not distinguishing between similarly named stations, may eventually lead to confusion, e.g. there were 4 "Ballyclares" & 2 "Ballyshannons" to name just a few.
Of the 2 "Athlones", my info is that it was the GSR one which closed in 1925, re-opening in 1985 on the same day that the MGW one closed
Aylwardstown opened in 1904, was re-named as Glenmore & Aylwardstown in 1906 and re-named again in 1921 as Glenmore. Therefore entry shoud be under Glenmore. However, this would still not help someone looking for Aylwardstown.
Does the Rail company column list the original or the final operating company at date of closure? Suckindiesel (talk) 20:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like i said, my notes are at home regarding Glenmore / Aylwardstown.

The rail company list is that of the company prior to the grouping in the Republic. When all companies wholly in the Republic became the Great Southern Railways. I believe that Ballyshannon had a County Donegal and a Great Northern Ireland station. In the list i would have put (in between the and

Ballyshannon railway station (GNI)|Ballyshannon

Ballyshannon railway station (CDRJC)|Ballyshannon

so that the article name would have made clear, but the list would only appear as the name, and the company would be in the company list, however, it might be an idea where there are multiple stations sharing a name, to have your idea, of the in the list, reiterate, so that when they scroll down, they can see in the station name the company.

If Glenmore was it's final name, which i cant comment on without my notes, but i believe u are right, then the article should be appropriately named Glenmore railway station.

Ballyclare's 2 stations were both part of what became the Midland Railways network, however, one was a Standard Gauge (standard gauge for Ireland that is, the other was narrow gauge, what would your opinion on naming the articles be?

My info on Athlone is that the MGW station was on the junction, with lines leading to Roscommon, Galway and Mullingar.

The GSW station was simply the terminus of the GSW line from Portarlington, so as trains from Mullingar (and ultimately all MGW trains from Dublin, would have used the MGW station. The GSW closed in 1925 after the Grouping merged the MGW and GSW together, meaning only one station was needed. In 1985, they modernised the line, opened and reopened a few stations, but my information shows that when the MGW station closed, the GSW station remained closed, and a new CIÉ station opened. I'd have to confirm on an OSI map the location regarding the station. I hope that has answered your question, and i look forward to working with you in the future

Halowithhorns89 (talk) 12:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are actually two junctions, each with their own station, one each side of the Shannon. The MGW station & junction with lines to Galway & Roscommon is on the western, Roscommon, side. The eastern, Westmeath, junction has lines to Mullingar (MGW) & Portarlington (GSR) The current station lies immediately after this junction on the Portarlinton road. I believe that the GSR station closed in 1925, the MGW station closed in 1985 to be replaced by a newly re-furbished station on the site of the original GSW. However, the 1906 Viceregal map, [Image:Map Rail Ireland Viceregal Commission 1906.jpg], only shows one Athlone station, on the eastern side. See [1] for a good pix of the closed MGW (Roscommon side) station which certainly doesn't look like its been closed down since 1925, Athlone railway station & [2] for more history.
Having two stations called Ballyclare, both eventually operated by the same railway co., must have caused some confusion back then. Hard to know how to distinguish between them other than perhaps as broad & narrow gauge
Suckindiesel (talk) 23:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Annascaul

Could i see the reference showing the spelling of Annascaul / Aunascual? As in a Directory of stations it shows it to be AnnascaulHalowithhorns89 (talk) 13:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly, I've 2 refs which show spelling as "Aunascaul", one which is available from within wiki itself, see map below which is an extract from the official 1906 British Gov rail map of Ireland.
Suckindiesel (talk)

Hmmm, yes i have seen a variety of different spellings, however for my home town, i've seen an Ordnance Survey map that states Dudcote station, yet Great Western Railway records, state it always being Didcot (in fact the town changed its name to Didcot because thats how the GWR spelt it. Do you have a copy of a Tralee and Dingle timetable? The Ordnance Survey Ireland shows the village as Annascaul, but thats the village not the station, i guess they dont always match. I've ordered a 1960 CIÉ timetable, which will help me greatly, as a number of stations are vague, in that they state the operating company and dates, but i dont have a clue where they are. like Acton Crossing. I know that Cabra is on the railway in Dublin, between Inchicore and i tink Phoenix Park, and i have found a record that says there was a station, but im unable to prove or disproove its existence, as i cant find a map for the 12 years it was open. It is becoming quite challenging, but we all like a challenge.Halowithhorns89 (talk) 13:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No copy of the timtable, but another ref, [3], which is a BOT report from 1893, uses the "Annascaul" version. Its certainly true that this is the commonly used version today, as seen from any Google search. I see that the Chester Model Group also use the Annascaul version in their layout, no doubt these guys have thoroughly researched the whole T&D history.
Perhaps one of the referenced book sources listed will be available locally, I'll have a look.
Even today, stations don't always match their town name, e.g. Enfield as used by IE & the locals v Innfield the official OS spelling.
Equally puzzled by location of Acton Crossing. Cabra is on the line between the Park tunnel & Connolly on the Heuston / Connolly line. Used for train transfers only, at least nowadays. There once was a CIE installation in Cabra, but this was a cement depot, not a station as far as I know.Suckindiesel (talk) 14:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two other sources use the Anuscaul version: [4] & [5]. The first one I find to be very comprehensive & was compiled from published timetables like Bradshaws, any station not listed here probably didn't exist. The second is less so but does include county names. Suckindiesel (talk) 00:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]