Talk:List of SM Entertainment artists/Archive 1

Archive 1

Adding Yoona?

Hello! Yoona released solo singles in 2016 and 2018 (When the Wind Blows and To You), but she hasn't released a mini-album yet. Do we add her in or not? Thanks! --Jal11497 (talk) 15:02, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Status of S.E.S.

S.E.S. might have reunited briefly between 2016 and 2017 and SM don't disband girl groups, which is the case of The Grace and f(x). Yet, S.E.S. is not listed on SMTOWN website, assuming that they really disband after promotions for Remember. So should I place them in former artists section? SkyHigher (talk) 11:08, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

SM IR report (2020)

Translation I added

7. 경영상의 주요계약등 Major management contracts, etc.

가. 아티스트 관련 주요 매니지먼트, 에이전트 등에 관한 계약 (기준일: 2020년 03월 31일) Contracts regarding major management, agents, etc. related to artists (base date: 31 March 2020)

성 명 Name	소 속 Belong	비 고 Remark
안 칠 현	강 타 Kangta
권 보 아	BoA
정 윤 호	동방신기 TVXQ
심 창 민
김 태 연	소녀시대 Girls' Generation
김 효 연
임 윤 아
권 유 리
이 순 규
김 기 범	샤이니 Shinee
최 민 호
이 태 민
이 진 기
SONG QIAN Victoria	f(x)
정 수 정
김 민 석	EXO
ZHANG, YIXING
김 종 대
김 종 인
오 세 훈
도 경 수
변 백 현
김 준 면
박 찬 열
강 슬 기	레드벨벳 Red Velvet
배 주 현
박 수 영
손 승 완
김 예 림
문 태 일	NCT
정 윤 오
이 태 용
MARK LEE
김 동 영
NAKAMOTO YUTA
이 동 혁
이 제 노
나 재 민
HUANG, RENJUN
ZHONG, CHENLE
박 지 성
JOHN JUN SUH
김 정 우
박 동 주	긴조
홍 성 미	다나
진 보 라	선데이
이 지 연	린아
이 연 희	이 연 희
김 경 식	김 경 식
김 동 우	이 동 우
김 민 종	김 민 종
최 종 윤	최 종 윤
오 지 민	J-min
김 보 령	김 이 안
이 재 룡	이 재 룡
유 호 정	유 호 정
이 철 우	이 철 우
기 도 훈	기 도 훈
박 정 수	Label SJ
김 희 철
최 시 원
김 려 욱
김 영 운
김 종 운
신 동 희
이 동 해
이 성 민
이 혁 재
조 규 현
ZHOU MI
김 경 준	All I Know Music Label
박 윤 하
정 동 화
김 덕 준
김 솔 희
WONG, YUK HEI	Label V
QIAN, KUN
LEECHAIYAPORNKUL CHITTAPHON
DONG, SICHENG
WONG, KUN HANG HENDERY
XIAO, DEJUN
LIU, YANG-YANG
임 재 빈	IMLAY
WU YI FAN	크리스 Kris as Soloists
LU HAN	루한 Luhan as Soloists
HUANG, ZITAO	타오 Tao as Soloists
한 석 현	Raiden

from SM IR Report (March 31, 2020)

SONG QIAN, WU YI FAN, LU HAN, ZITAO HUANG still has an SM contract --아드리앵 (talk) 06:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay, but I don't think we should put them under SM's soloists since they don't personally state that they're under SM. Maybe we can make an "Others" section as a disclaimer? Jal11497 (talk) 07:23, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Good :) --아드리앵 (talk) 07:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

This is ultimately a primary source that needs to be substantiated by other secondary sources. Reliable Korean news sources should be used rather than stating SM's own report. Evaders99 (talk) 07:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

아이돌그룹 ‘엑소’의 중국인 멤버 크리스와 루한이 SM엔터테인먼트를 상대로 제기한 전속계약 효력 확인 소송에서 양측이 협의해 그간의 분쟁을 끝냈다. SM의 법률 대리인인 법무법인 태평양은 21일 “법원의 화해권고 결정에 따라 SM과 크리스, 루한 간의 국내 소송이 마무리됐다”고 밝혔다. 태평양이 공개한 합의 내용에 따르면 SM과 크리스, 루한이 체결한 전속계약은 원래대로 2022년까지 유지된다. The exclusive contract will be maintained until 2022. Segye Ilbo --아드리앵 (talk) 07:42, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

"다른 멤버인 빅토리아와는 새로운 방식의 협업을 논의 중" We're discussing a new way of collaborating with Victoria. Yonhapnews --아드리앵 (talk) 07:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

You missed out Super Junior (SJ)

Please check again and update the list properly. 219.74.218.136 (talk) 15:27, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@219.74.218.136 Wasn't missed out, it's at List of SM Entertainment artists#Subsidiaries as they are under their own exclusive label of Label SJ. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:40, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Lay Zhang is not former member

Lay Zhang has left only SM entertainment company not his group Exo, He said that He'll remain as Exo member with his fellow members in the future, so remove his name from SM's former member 124.253.220.166 (talk) 18:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Dear Alice

Users looking for the band are currently being redirected to this page, yet they aren't featured here as a part of SM.

It's not clear if they are actually a part of SM but if they definitely aren't going to be featured on this page then perhaps we should cancel the redirection?

What is the consensus? DSQ (talk) 22:18, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Non-soloists

@Paper9oll @K-popguardian @Windborne Rider @Btspurplegalaxy do any of you have any opinions on what the best way would be to restructure this list to be more complete and include SM Entertainment artists that have Wikipedia articles but don't yet fall into the "soloist" category because they haven't had their official "solo debut"?

For example, Yeri, Chenle, Jaemin, Jeno, Jisung, Jungwoo, Seunghan, Sehun, Karina, Winter, Giselle, Ningning, etc. are all SM Entertainment artists but currently have no place in the "List of SM Entertainment artists" list because they're not "soloists".

I was maybe thinking of listing group members as sub-bullets under their group's entry in the "groups" list so they could be included there, thoughts? RachelTensions (talk) 19:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you to include them under their respective groups. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 19:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Should we list all group members (to make this into a complete list), or only those with standalone articles? RachelTensions (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

For me, only with articles while those without article yet can be added when they established notability. But let's wait for the other three users' opinion. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 20:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I guess another route would be to change the "Soloists" list to say "Individuals" instead which would allow listing everybody. RachelTensions (talk) 20:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

This seems like the best approach. I don't see another way to format it. When I look at the artist lists for YG Entertainment and JYP Entertainment, I notice there are no pages linked for artists who don't fall into the soloist category. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 10:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Retain soloists. Add sub-bullets for all members under each groups instead of just group members having article as this would prevent disruptive editing in turn socking, I believe that if we decided to add non-soloists member to the list then it's better to apply precaution and/or preventive actions rather than waiting for the event to happen then deciding it in another round of discussion. In addition, I also don't see how naming and/or renaming to Individuals would make any differences in terms of precaution and/or preventive actions as we're basically giving the assumptions that we're deliberate not listing out other members, of course in terms of experienced editor, this is pretty understandable and straightforward however in the perspective of readers, it may not be and they would attempt to basically add in the "missing" members than this is where the edit war would start. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, listing everyone under their respective group would prevent people arbitrarily thinking someone is “missing” from the soloists category even though they haven’t had a debut as a soloist.

I thought of expanding the list into a more comprehensive set of tables that would include more information like debut year, debut single and maybe a link to their discography… I’ll mock it up in a draft and see what it looks like RachelTensions (talk) 13:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

New formatting

I just wanted to say that I like the new formatting so far! Will you have a section for artists who have left their groups? 73.142.214.133 (talk) 21:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I think I've covered that with the "Former" section within each respective group's listing - is that what you meant? RachelTensions (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)