Talk:List of Green Bay Packers Associated Press All-Pro selections

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~~... that the only first-team AP All-Pro for the Green Bay Packers the last two seasons was kick returner Keisean Nixon?~~

Source: 2022 and 2023

Reviewed: Peter Demetz

Moved to mainspace by Gonzo fan2007 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Probably needs a new hook as readers who aren't NFL fans or very familiar with American football may not see the interest of this hook. If a reader does not know what an "AP All-Pro" is or its significance, they won't find the hook interesting. Rejecting ALT0 per WP:DYKINT as well as the old supplementary guidelines (i.e. don't assume all readers are familiar with the sport you're talking about). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:43, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT1: ... that the only Green Bay Packers' player recognized by the Associated Press as a first-team All-Pro the last two seasons was kick returner Keisean Nixon? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- . Requesting a second opinion. By writing out "Associated Press" and adding "recognized" helps clarify that this is a national recognition. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:03, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will probably have to disagree here. Readers might still not necessarily get what it means to be an "All-Pro" or how it is a big deal. Historically, our sports hooks have tended to underperform and be criticized as only appealing to sports fans, and I can't see how this hook or angle is any different. A completely different angle is probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

. Requesting a second opinion. I.e. from another editor please. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: What about something like:

ALT2: ... that the Green Bay Packers once had 14 players selected to the national All-Pro team?

I don't necessarily love the current hook, but I think the article has potential for something interesting to be picked out from it. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with ALT2 hey man im josh. Thank you. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone reading, I'm commenting for clarity that I am not reviewing this nomination, I just proposed an alternative hook. This still needs a reviewer. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

needs a review on ALT2. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The whole article needs a review.--Laun chba ller 17:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. I think ALT2 is interesting enough and so that one is approved. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]