Talk:List of Fairy Tail characters/Archive 1
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Template
I'm almost 100% sure there is a template or somesuch to be used for this, but I have no idea where it is. I want to suggest this article be merged with the main article,Fairy Tale —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.33.44.195 (talk) 15:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
List Merges
I have tagged the three character lists for merging back to this single list. This is only a twelve volume manga series. There is no valid reason at all for this series to have THREE separate character lists. All of the lists suffer from excessive plot detail, in-universe writing, lack of referencing, and giving too much focus to relatively minor and one-shot characters. If cleaned up properly, all should fit into a single list. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 07:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- Done. All that's left is to redirect the other lists. ~SnapperTo 05:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Also done. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Name spellings
Summary note from other list talk pages and WP:MOS-AM. As the series is licensed and released in English, all characters should be referred to using the official English spellings found in the Del Rey release of the manga. Specifically:
-- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:40, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Wait, there's more too:
- Mystogan, not Mist Gun
- Cana, not Kana
- Laxus, not Luxus (I don't remember the official spelling for his last name)
- Siegrein, not Sieglein
If there's any others, just put them here. GENERALZERO (talk) 05:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Use Jellal not Gerard. It is official according to Hiro Mashima-sensei, but sources say that 98% of the Intenet uses Gerard instead of the official "Jellal". Chitetskoy (talk) 12:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Gazille and Lluvia
Shouldn't we put these 2 characters under the Fairy Tail guild, since they are currently part of it? We could put under their descriptions that they were formally in the Phantom guild. Hyakurei (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree, they've been a aprt of Fairy Tail for an entire arc now, fought in the Fighting Festival, and Gazelle is already a double agent for Makarov. I think they deserve to be listed under Fairy Tail members rather than Fairy Tail villains, as they are reformed. (Korikitsune0 (talk) 15:13, 25 March 2009 (UTC))
This would certainly make sense, seeing as the list is currently out of date with them listed as they are now, a simlpe link in the Phantom Lord intro to their character descriptions should suffice to show those looking for Phantom Lord members that they once belonged to the guild, as well as retaining their current descriptions.
Would someone please explain how this interpretation could be incorrect? Darkemyst (talk) 07:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
For Christ's Sake
Okay, this is getting f**king ridiculous. I am so sick of everyone using the f**king fan translations instead of the official ones. Here's the real names, so cut it the f**k out.
- Cana Alberona not Kana
- Loke not Loki
- Mystogan not Mist Gun
- Siegrein, not Sieglein
- Laxus Dreyar, not Luxus Drehar
- Levy, not Levi
It's not what you like better. It's what Mashima-san wanted for the official names, so use the proper ones or get the f**k out of the way and let the ones who devoted their time to this article do the right thing. GENERALZERO (talk) 01:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Mystogan ?? that looks a lot how you'll write( or pronounce) mist gun in japanese.. but if thats the official translation.. --201.220.215.11 (talk) 07:01, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- I cannot begin to tell you how gay Mystogan sounds. I doesn't do him justice. RecklessFire (talk) 21:08, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well, RF, Even though it's spelled quite differently, it's pronunciation is quite simlar: "Mist-oh-gahn". Not too different, see? GENERALZERO (talk) 00:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Honestly, I prefer the look/sound of "Mist Gun" over "Mystogan" too, but Mashima has the final say on the namings of his own characters, as GENERALZERO stated in his rage, lol. I'm kind of getting used to the new name to tell you the truth. Whether it does him justice or not, guidelines are guidelines, I'm afraid. Snow Villiers (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I understand, that's why I'm not fighting it. I'm sure I'll get used to it soon. RecklessFire (talk) 04:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Mystogan is the reason why I think Del Rey just lied about Mashima giving them "official" names. I won't change names anyway though. Gune (talk) 06:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Persistent wrong info about happy
Someone wrote:
"Happy emerged from an egg found by Natsu in the forest, and with the help of Lisana, Mirajane and Elfman's younger sister, they took care of the egg..."
well, first of all lisana IS elfman younger sister.. and mirajane took no part at all.. so it should read "lisana and elfman", besides i think the part about elfman taking the egg secretly is not really important and lacks clarity to someone who hasn't read the chapter.. so instead of giving more unnecessary details to make it clear im changing it to: ( he helped out secretly because was too embarrassed). But the problem is that somebody keeps changing it back.. i want to know why ??--201.220.215.14 (talk) 06:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- *Sigh* I'm not saying she took part, I'm describing Lisana, who is Mira and Elfman's younger sister. For example: Happy, Natsu's cat, is blue. GENERALZERO (talk) 20:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
that may be your intention but it lacks clarity.. i don’t get what’s wrong with "with the help of Lisana and Elfman( he helped out secretly because was too embarrassed)..", its plain clear and doesn't go into unnecessary details.. if you want to specify who lisana was it'll be better to add her to this list of characters, which by the way i think should be done since we are listing characters like deliora and the dragon king, both of less importance and as i said before the part about elfman taking the egg is not entirely comprehensible to someone who hasn't read the chapter, and most of all is not important.. its entirely irrelevant to the history and only acts as a minor( really minor) plot in that chapter.. there's no need to add whatever a character does or says, with adding that he took care of it too, secretly, i think is enough —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.215.14 (talk) 05:36, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Becuase that sounds retarded. We're trying to sound professional, not like 2 year olds wrote it. It's fine, leave it as is. GENERALZERO (talk) 18:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
FFS, put "Lisana, sister of Elfman and Mirajane". More clear now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mugulord (talk • contribs) 22:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
That's funny coming from somebody who swore in the edit history Gune (talk) 02:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, I get angry. Very easily, unfortunately. I;m just trying to make it sound as professional as possible and it's annoying when stupid trolls come along, and destroy the article with sexual references almost very damn day. You're telling me that it wouldn't bother you when you're trying to reach a goal, and there's a small insignificant fly standing in your way, and when you ask for the article to be protected, the administrators do nothing about it, because they're too fucking lazy to get off their asses? That wouldn't bother you? GENERALZERO (talk) 03:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
There were hardly any edits like that. It was mostly name changes which do not matter unless they are completely wrong. Gune (talk) 18:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- They ARE wrong. The Fan Translations are wrong. Official is right. Look at the previous topic. Sorry for the rant, but I was angry before. GENERALZERO (talk) 21:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really. They just took names and made them up. I don't care for them but I'm not going to change them. Gune (talk) 05:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Laxus
He is a dragon slayer. So why is it that this info keeps being removed? I'm a bit confused with some of the history because something seems missing but I'm pretty sure that GENERALZERO removed it at one point. I figured you of all people would know it's true. RecklessFire (talk) 19:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- I just felt the translation for the chapter was a little choppy, and Gazille said something before Laxus showed his tattoo thing. Until the next chapter can explain it better, let's leave it. GENERALZERO (talk) 20:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- I think the scales, sharp teeth and his use of "Houkou" are enough to convince anyone. RecklessFire (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, what was that about him being a Dragon Slayer? This is why we shouldn't jump to conclusions. GENERALZERO (talk) 02:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- I think the scales, sharp teeth and his use of "Houkou" are enough to convince anyone. RecklessFire (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- I just felt the translation for the chapter was a little choppy, and Gazille said something before Laxus showed his tattoo thing. Until the next chapter can explain it better, let's leave it. GENERALZERO (talk) 20:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Laxus is an "artificial" Dragon Slayer, that means he acquired his Dragon Slayer powers when he has been infused with a lacrima in his body, implanted by his father as he was believed that he is physically weak. Several characters also claimed themselves to be an (artificial) Dragon Slayer, calling themselves the "New Generation" ones while calling the likes of Natsu, Gajeel and Wendy whom were raised and taught by the dragons themselves the "Old Generation" ones. Cobra is another "artificial" Dragon Slayer in the series. Chitetskoy (talk) 12:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
seeing as this topic has been settled, how about it is removed from the discussion board? Darkemyst (talk) 08:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
That's not how things work on Wikipedia. They only get archived not removed. Gune (talk) 18:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Oracion Six/Nirvana Arc Characters & An Apology
As we know, a new arc means new characters and magic. I admit, I've only been working on this article with you fellow fans, and I don't know how things work when a new story begins when it comes to adding new information, but I don't want to jump to conclusions. Remember Laxus and his "Dragon Slayer" magic? I just want to make a well-written article with the correct names and whatnot.
Another thing I wanted to say was I've been an ass lately with my reverting and the like. Especially my last few topics above. I was an ass. I did get angrily very easy before, and I'm sorry about the rant above. I will be more "un-raging" from now on. GENERALZERO (talk) 02:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps a good start would be listing the guilds in the alliance with what is known about them (baisicly that they are legal and part of the alliance) and placing their known mages under their names? We can worry about offical spelling when it is announced.Darkemyst (talk) 08:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Angel needs to be fix because it says she can transform but if I'm not mistaken that was Gemini's special ability. Iceteen21
(talk) 6:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
page consistency
it would probably help this page if it had some kind of consistency to the organization of the list(s) for example grouping mages by their guild instead of having some grouped by story arc and some by guild;
and it should be decided wether groups/teams within guilds should have their members listed seperatly under the team name (as Raijinsu is now), just be mentioned under the team name itself (Shadow Gear), or only have the team name mentioned in the description of the individuals (Element 4) I think the first and last options are probably the best for keeping the groups similar to the rest of the list but I'm curious as to how others interpert these discrepancies Darkemyst (talk) 07:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Gazille's Official Name?
There's somewhat of a reverting frenzy involving Gazille, switching between Gajeel and Gazille. Seeing how Vol 6. has been released, if someone can take a picture or scan a page with his name, it'd be appreciated. GENERALZERO (talk) 07:52, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Mind if I revert the page back to its last edit? I changed the instances of "mage" into "wizard" and "stellar spirit" into "celestial spirit" to coincide with the English volumes. I don't have volume six yet, unfortunately. -Mr. Toto (talk) 14:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it's quite all right. Like Mr. Toto said in a past revision description, Del Ray's November Brochure does indeed spell Gazille as Gajeel. It's found on Page 6:November Brochure GENERALZERO (talk) 00:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Longer Intro
It says toward the top of the page the article's intro needs to be longer. Anyone have any ideas? GENERALZERO (talk) 22:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- Take a look at another featured list for examples. This page would be a good place to start. Aside from the longer intro, we probably need to cut a few characters from the page. People that only have a couple of sentences aren't notable enough to be listed (like Lyon's lackeys). I'm definitely willing to assist in a rewrite, but right now I'm still in the process of doing so for a few other pages. -Mr. Toto (talk) 01:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, we're in no rush. When you're ready, we can fix the page. GENERALZERO (talk) 02:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Two More Official Spellings
Now, it's... ~ Gajeel, not Gazille ~ Juvia, not Jubia, Luvia, Lluvia, etc.
GENERALZERO (talk) 05:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Nice source. I didn't know a scanlation of something that has no relationship to your comment has anything do with with "official" names. I'll just assume to made them up. Gune (talk) 07:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- The important point is the background, not the translated text in the speech bubbles. Mashima decided to write out romanised versions of their names next to their corresponding attractions. Although, I have to admit that in the past, he was kinda inconsistent with romanising the names. I'm pretty sure that he spelled Erza's name with an l once or twice. -- 122.110.160.137 (talk) 11:43, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, Gune...Did you even go past the first page before you typed your comment? As for Erza, the only time it was spelled with an "L" was on her grave. GENERALZERO (talk) 18:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
It's a scanlation. It has no bearing at all to prove what is "official" or not. You linked to something has has no evidence supporting what you said. Nice try GENERALZERO. Gune (talk) 23:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- There's no way a scan-lator can put that kind of text in. That definitely the official spellings. GENERALZERO (talk) 00:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Look at it. There is no translation. It is all in kanji except for the word special. You used a bad source that proves absolutely nothing. Gune (talk) 00:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Whoa, wait a second...Goon, did you read it? There's more than the magazine page. GENERALZERO (talk) 01:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The rest is just a scanlation. Using a scanlation as an "official" source shows you don't know what you are talking about. Gune (talk) 01:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Why don't you answer my question so we can clear this up easier? Like it was said above, the names in the speech bubbles don't matter, but the names next to the characters. GENERALZERO (talk) 02:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- If I may suggest a solution; why not link a RAW of the pages in question? It should be easier to convince someone with those.- 114.75.43.163 (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Good idea. Gune, thesetwo are the pages in question. -Mr. Toto (talk) 16:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for clearing this up, Mr. Toto and....114 guy. GENERALZERO (talk) 17:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Good idea. Gune, thesetwo are the pages in question. -Mr. Toto (talk) 16:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- If I may suggest a solution; why not link a RAW of the pages in question? It should be easier to convince someone with those.- 114.75.43.163 (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Clean Up
Looking at the sign above, it says the article may require clean-up. I know someone suggested removing certain characters from the list, like Lyon's group, sans Sherry. I do agree, but how would we group the characters? Maybe Main, then Supporting, then Minor? If you have any ideas, it'd be appreciated. GENERALZERO (talk) 23:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- Also, enough with the name changes, especially from Crc-whatever. If you've seen the Del Rey aka THE OFFICIAL MANGA, you'd know the LOKE is the official translation, not LOKI, and their from Mashima himself so don't go saying how they translated it strong. GENERALZERO (talk) 20:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- Slightly late, but further clarification; Loke is not pronounced as spelt ('Lowk' or 'Lo-keh'), but as 'Lo-kee', similiar to the Norse mythological figure. 122.110.182.45 (talk) 00:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Then it would be spelled Loki and not Loke if it was intended on being pronounced that way. Gune (talk) 19:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- The name comes from the Nordic god, spelled both "Loke" and "Loki," yet pronounced the same way. No room for argument here, considering it's the official romanization anyways. -Mr. Toto (talk) 04:29, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Centaurus
Is the Celestial Spirit Centaurus supposed to be Sagittarius? The naming is somewhat confusing since there is another constellation visible in the southern hemisphere called Centaurus that is not the same constellation as Sagittarius.
Is this the name used in the official translation by Del Rey? If so, can the internal link be at least be directed to Sagittarius instead, if that is the actual constellation the character is referring to? 24.84.218.226 (talk) 03:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- In Volume 5, Lucy refers to the Golden Key she gets after Galuna Island as "Centaurus". Since she summons him in Volume 8, I'll check the official manga and see if the name is consistent. GENERALZERO (talk) 03:33, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
The Celestial Spirits Golden Keys are each from one of the zodac signs. So that being the case it would be Sagittarius
- But the official name is Centaurus. That was the name Mashima chose, and that's what we're sticking with. GENERALZERO (talk) 23:23, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
chapter 62 page 15 open the centaur gate Sagittarius yes you called —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.142.59 (talk) 04:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- That's from a scanlation, not the official manga from Del Rey. Pay attention to the warning at the top of the page. I'm tired of repeating myself. GENERALZERO (talk) 04:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- If Del Rey is using Centaurus, then I'll respect that (unless that's a mistake from some sort of misunderstanding between the two groups that is going to be rectified at some point) and won't change it. I'm just asking if the internal link can lead to Sagittarius instead of Centaurus (so the wiki text is like "Sagittarius|Centaurus" in double brackets), since I don't think that Centaurus is the constellation the author is referencing. 24.84.218.226 (talk) 03:28, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, in Vol.8 Lucy says Sagittarius, so we're gonna go with that. GENERALZERO (talk) 01:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- If Del Rey is using Centaurus, then I'll respect that (unless that's a mistake from some sort of misunderstanding between the two groups that is going to be rectified at some point) and won't change it. I'm just asking if the internal link can lead to Sagittarius instead of Centaurus (so the wiki text is like "Sagittarius|Centaurus" in double brackets), since I don't think that Centaurus is the constellation the author is referencing. 24.84.218.226 (talk) 03:28, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's from a scanlation, not the official manga from Del Rey. Pay attention to the warning at the top of the page. I'm tired of repeating myself. GENERALZERO (talk) 04:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)