Talk:Lies

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Requested move 18 October 2016[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No move. We have no agreement that there's a primary topic/primary redirect here. Cúchullain ^t/c 15:51, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lies → Lies (disambiguation) – Per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, "lies" clearly most refers to its singular form lie, and should redirect there. The other article listed at the top, Lies (evidence), is still about lying and gets much less pageviews than lie. Nohomersryan (talk) 13:15, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support, common name, etc., and it's really just the plural form of 'Lie' so the term should direct there. Randy Kryn 14:11, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support as Randy Kryn In ictu oculi (talk) 16:41, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 22 views per day for the dab page. It doesn't look like very many people are ending up one the dab. Navigation works fine with the current setup. There's also "lies" as a verb, which shows up fairly frequently in geography articles (though it's not typically linked): "the island lies in the harbor". Plantdrew (talk) 19:24, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- "Lie" can be used the same way, but lie is still the primary topic, so there's no reason "lies" referring to lying shouldn't be. Nohomersryan (talk) 20:33, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NOTDICT. — AjaxSmack 23:48, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"This page in a nutshell: In Wikipedia, things are grouped into articles based on what they are, not what they are called by. In a dictionary, things are grouped by what they are called by, not what they are." ... but lies are called lies so we have an article on lies. What's the problem? In ictu oculi (talk) 05:03, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: in everyday conversation it is perhaps most commonly the plural of Lie meaning "untruth", but when people are looking it up in an encyclopedia I'm not convinced that they are more likely to be looking for that sense than for all the other places, albums, etc put together. PamD 11:05, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:PLURALPT, which teaches us to consider plural and singular forms separately for considerations of primary topic: The relationship between a singular and its plural is important, but not the only consideration. With so low pageviews, I would expect that most of those who purposefully type "lies" look for one of numerous other uses. While "lie" is indeed a common everyday word, it does not constitute a terribly interesting encyclopedic topic. No such user (talk) 19:48, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Very clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:15, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Without some stronger evidence, there is good likelihood that persons deliberately looking for "lies" may well be looking for any of the various uses. older ≠ wiser 16:13, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.