Talk:Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

Naming

Though I created the page here, I would like to discuss shifting the page to Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney as that is the name Kotaku refers to it as as well as the logical and most likely name based on a translation of the game's current title. The problem with the current title is that the front part is English while the back is Japanese.KiasuKiasiMan 14:40, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

We probably should be using the Japanese title Layton Kyouju vs. Gyakuten Saiban because everyone is assuming that that will be the English version (redirects from english to here). See [1] for example. --MASEM (t) 16:53, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Not to mention the English version could very well have a completely different name as well as the fact that using the English terms may confuse people into thinking that the game has been officialluy announced for an English audience. Finally, many sites have a history of using direct translations of Japanese titles or using existing franchise names to create English titles. For example, Dragn quest 9 had previously been called by sites such as IGN Dragon Quest IX: Protectors of the Sky a (translation of the original title) with the actual title being Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies. I have also seen the remake of SaGa 2 called Final Fantasy Legend 2 (The name the original Gameboy version was changed to) even though it was never announced in the states and future games in the series have since used the SaGa name. In short, it could be guess work.--76.66.182.164 (talk) 21:15, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Capcom uses the title Professor Layton VS Phoenix Wright in the English version of their press release. Perhaps we should use that? --Super Shy Guy Bros. (talk) 02:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Since it is still only a Japan-planned release game, we should be using the given Japanese title. It is likely a certainity it will be coming to the west but per WP:HAMMER we shouldn't be guessing at the title. --MASEM (t) 02:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I've put down the Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney as a secondary title in the article's opening paragraph (since it's what Capcom called it on their blog), whilst the page article can remain until an official western release is announced.

Level-5 America calls it "Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney" on their website. I'll let y'all decide what to do about this. [2] Hammerbrodude (talk) 18:23, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I think it should be moved to Professor Layton Vs Ace Attorney, as that's what they call it on their web page.--In Donaldismo Veritas (talk) 11:45, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: Forgot about the source. [3]--In Donaldismo Veritas (talk) 11:49, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

That is Level 5's international site's and it is still only announcing the game's release in Japan. The Japanese site for Level 5 [4] is still using the Japanese name. Until we have a confirmation of a western release which would use the english naming, the title of this article remain Japanese. --MASEM (t) 13:01, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Wait, so why does the fact that it's on their international site mean it's not correct? As far as I can tell, that's their official English/international site. In essence, they're announcing the (perhaps tentative) English title, which may or may not change in the future, but it's still "official" in that sense. Axem Titanium (talk) 01:51, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

No it's not official. For example, on their facebook page, where they are asking for which titles to localize, even "Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright" is listed as "tentative". Because there is no western release, we go with the Japanese name. This is standard for any such naming schemes when there's no official English name to use. --MASEM (t) 02:34, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

So, why is this the Japanese title and Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle in English? Both are tentative titles, both used by official sources including the Level-5 International America website, both are the most commonly used English name, and neither having received an American nor European release announcement.Hammerbrodude (talk) 19:18, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

It shouldn't be at the english title until a release and its official name is confirmed. --MASEM (t) 20:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

The reason for Professor Layton and the Mask of Miricale being in used was because the game was presented at last years E3 when they first demostrated the 3DS. The title was in presented in English with English Screenshots. That is a completely different case and a move request would like not be successful.--76.66.188.209 (talk) 06:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Here is a link with the relevant screens. There are near the bottom. [[5]]. As can be seen the Title Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle is clearly seen in English in an official piece of media. That seems pretty official to me.--76.66.188.209 (talk) 06:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

That's a very tenacious proof there (if it was just a demo and not a released product, there's still a chance the name may chance if it is released in the West), but regardless, we don't have anything like that for this game. PLvPW is still "tentative title" and there's no evidence that it is being released here despite winning that poll. --MASEM (t) 13:02, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I am aware of that. I was specifically responding to the suggestion that the other game should be moved back to the Japanese title and not suggesting that this page should be moved since unlike that game no English logo has been shown yet.--76.66.188.209 (talk) 19:54, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

According to this article by GamesRadar http://www.gamesradar.com/tgs-2011-professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney-confirmed-release-outside-japan/ , an English-language press-release on the game by Capcom refers to the game as Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney, so it can probably be accepted as it's official name. Wonchop (talk) 14:51, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

That is a reasonably assured source though the article from GR does through a hint of doubt, but not enough to block the name change. --MASEM (t) 15:10, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me?

Um, in the infobox it says the publisher will be Level-5, but in the opening paragraph it states the publisher is Capcom. Which is it? 82.37.246.236 (talk) 20:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I believe it's level-5. In an unrelated note coud this be the greatest game ever? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.4.251 (talk) 21:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

North America

I heard rumors this game would not be released in North America. Should this be mentioned in the article. I don't remember where the source I had is, but if someone thinks it should be added I'll try to track it down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.88.249 (talk) 03:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

All we know is the only plans for release are in JP. There has been no statement, either way, if the game is to be released in the West, so there's nothing we can say save by lack of saying anything. --MASEM (t) 03:33, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I hear these claims pretty often. It hasn't been confirmed for North American release, which really just means they haven't said anything about yet. The article will be updated once we get some sort of confirmation. Reach Out to the Truth 05:47, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

It would also depend on where these rumors are coming from. If sites such as IGN ect are reporting the rumor it may be a good idea to add info about the rumor but if the rumor is only covered by fansites and personal blogs we should probably hold off until we get better info.--76.66.189.59 (talk) 04:48, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Source

From Polygon.com. Axem Titanium (talk) 22:19, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

More from Iwata Asks. Axem Titanium (talk) 07:13, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

And another one. Axem Titanium (talk) 05:11, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Date

Basically the date for the North America launch is wrong. It's released September 29th, 2014. The date you have was postponed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.52.147.192 (talk) 20:04, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I bought the game when it came out and it was not last Monday so no.--76.65.42.142 (talk) 05:22, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

critical reception mostly negative

The game had good critical reception, but the section about it seems mostly negative. Disappointed gamer? PizzaMan (♨♨) 17:07, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

It should be expanded. I think we need to cover more Western reviews since Wired is the only one mentioned and all the major sites covered it.--69.157.253.160 (talk) 04:30, 16 December 2014 (UTC)