Talk:Landed gentry in China

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What is the Gentry-Theory?

It is underpinned by W. Eberard's work, a friend of Max Weber.

I am really sorry, but this is outdated- the Tang were still a quite aristocratic society (as it has been proven by Twitchett and others). It was only in the late Song, during the aftermath of Wang Anshi's (failed) reforms, when a "meritocratic" gentry rose to power. The nobility from the period of divisions was actually quite alive under the Tang, but it is true that An Lushan's rebellion and the fall of the Tang finally made things easier for scholar-officials. Keep in mind that gentry refers to a specific class of (Confucian-educated) landowners with local political influence. The gentry are a phenomenon of late imperial China- settled bureaucrats and their families. I am afraid that I lack the skill to contribute here and due to my work I don't have the time to add proper references etc. ... kind regards...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.213.38 (talk) 17:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correct Term?

There needs to be a clear English translation for Junzi This was the social class that staffed the civil service of the Chinese Empire(s). So far in literature I have seen: Scholar-bureaucrats, scholar-officials, scholar, bureaucrats, officials, literati, gentlemen, intellectuals, gentry, scholar-gentry, civil-servant, ect.

yet, according to existing Wikipedia the correct translation is: Scholar --Gurdjieff (talk) 12:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]