Talk:LNER Class P2

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Unclear statement

Don't understand this sentence: "The class (except No. 2005) featured a Kylchap-type blastpipe / chimney system to aid efficiency, which was designed to take different fittings to allow experimentation with this then new exhaust arrangement." It needs a rewrite. Any ideas?--John of Paris 01:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removal

The computer based track mapping system P2, used by most rail companies to track the movement of trains across the UK, is named after the P2 class. Its splash screen features a P2 locomotive and train.^{[citation needed]}

Couldn;t find any source for this - not sure that this isn't in the realms of trivia.83.100.174.82 (talk) 15:50, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speed

What I couldn't find anywhere: What was the operational speed of these? --Tobias b köhler (talk) 11:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

British steam locomotives didn't really have an "operational speed" as such. Very few had a speed indicator; the driver ran at whatever speed was necessary in order to keep to the timetable. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:24, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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So are there two rival replicas being built?

I'm confused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.2.34.2 (talk) 09:18, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Puzzled

The article has:

At low cutoffs smoke clearance on No. 2002 was unsatisfactory: wind tunnel experiments led to an additional second pair of smoke deflectors being fitted inward of the first.

but pictures in (for example) "Gresley Locomotives - a Pictorial History by Brian Haresnape" clearly show the additional plates outboard.

2A00:23C7:D29D:4E01:2502:D4D7:E01E:1F71 (talk) 17:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The text was added in this edit. I don't have access to that source in order to check it; but I agree on the photos in Haresnape (the text of which says that a second set were added, but doesn't give their position). It's clear from the text in two other sources

Nock, O.S. (1945). The Locomotives of Sir Nigel Gresley. London: Longmans, Green & Co. p. 121. 16925.
Boddy, M.G.; Brown, W.A.; Neve, E.; Yeadon, W.B. (November 1983). Fry, E.V. (ed.). Locomotives of the L.N.E.R., part 6B: Tender Engines - Classes O1 to P2. Kenilworth: RCTS. p. 186. ISBN 0-901115-54-1.

that the extra pair were outside the first. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:31, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In film

In the 1938 film "Anything to Declare?" IMDB ID tt0029873, there are two sequences featuring P2 #2001. The first is an above head on shot, just under 11 mins from the start. The second is at rail level at 12.5 mins ending with the train arriving at Kings cross. Adsjaldjjfgwetwlla (talk) 04:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Adsjaldjjfgwetwlla: Are there any reliable sources that point this out? Was it significant to the plot that a P2 was used? Would it have made any difference to the story if an A3 had been used? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was unaware of any film of a P2, let alone in steam existed. This was the point of my contribution. If that is not enough, I will offer no objection is you delete it.

To your point. Most films have very bad continuity as far the railways are concerned, so I don't watch them in that way. I was simply skipping through the film before I deleted it and noted the odd looking A1 or A3, then realised what it was. The film is being shown in the UK on TV this Saturday 22 on TPTV.

There are also some nice shots of teak coaches...

TTFN Adsjaldjjfgwetwlla (talk) 04:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not the place for pointing out what you saw in a film, particularly if inconsistent - that is what websites like TV Tropes are for. Wikipedia summarises what reliable secondary sources have already described. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good bye and all the best Adsjaldjjfgwetwlla (talk) 23:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's definitely no. 2001 in its condition prior to April 1938. However, no. 2001 only worked to King's Cross on a regular basis between June and July 1934 and also between February and May 1935, when it was sent to Scotland for use between Edinburgh and Aberdeen, so the two sequences are probably from one of those two periods. I would say that this is stock footage, rather than being made specially for Anything to Declare?, particularly when you consider that the coaches seen in these sequences are completely different from the ones that the main characters are seen getting out of. They're not even British coaches, this and the sequences showing train interiors were probably filmed in France. The train is supposedly from Southampton to Waterloo, so Kings Cross is also an anomaly.

My opinion: no. 2001 in this film is of zero relevance to the story, and it's not worth mentioning in the article. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

London-Aberdeen

with a ~550 ton train on only 8 tons of coal - economical! (34lbs/mile). Do we believe this? or is there something we're not told? (Ref 26)

2A00:23C7:D29D:4E01:7917:80A:10DC:2CEF (talk) 21:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]