Talk:Kure, Hiroshima

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I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. The years are missing from the copied elements.

Ship building company of IHI Corporation, storeroom and steel product company of Yodogawa Steel Works and Nisshin Steel Works are factory located in Kure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.23.5.48 (talk) 13:33, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Departmentstore and Shoppingmall

I will remove some less notable or unsourced events from the list and put them here. Feelfree to discuss. I have rough criteria in mind, but typing them would be too long. The years are missing from the copied elements.

Sogo Departmentstore Kure
Youme Town Kure

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.23.5.48 (talk) 13:33, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 July 2018

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No consensus. See no general agreement below to grant this request. The long-term title will remain, and the redirect, Kure, though disputed below as primary redirect, will continue to target this article until perhaps a requested move at Talk:Kure (disambiguation) results in renaming the disambiguation page. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 00:58, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kure, Hiroshima → Kure – Per WP:PTOPIC. The city in Japan is significant both as a populated place (it's larger than any other place with the same name), and in the context of military history. Addendum: Compared to Kure Atoll, Google Trends show significantly higher search interest for the Japanese topic. feminist (talk) 07:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. bd2412 T 04:00, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Strong~~ Support Unnecessary disambiguation (already redirects here), this is clearly primary, other uses are not called this. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:48, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Not sure~~ March 2009‎ B Fizz moved Kure to Kure (disambiguation) over redirect: Kure will be changed to redirect to Kure, Hirishima, the natural main article.) but the current set up has advantages. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:24, 28 July 2018 (UTC) ... change to Oppose the Japanese town doesn't pass the "Kure is" or "Kure was" tests. In both Kure (atoll) gets more book references. a primary redirect to Kure, Hiroshima serves better now than removing "Hiroshima" and making the article less recognizable. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:29, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We don't aim to make the titles more recognizable than needed, by that lodgic it could be at [[Kure is a port and major shipbuilding city situated on the Seto Inland Sea in Hiroshima Prefecture, Japan. With a strong industrial heritage Kure hosts the second oldest naval dockyard in Japan and remains an important base for the Japan Maritime Self-Defence Force (JMSDF)]] which would be silly. This essay explains this. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:17, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Is it any surprise that in book sources, an American topic would receive more coverage than a Japanese topic? That does not automatically translate to reader interest. Google Trends data shows that Kure in Japan receives much more interest than Kure Atoll. feminist (talk) 16:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, exactly why this RM is a bad idea. There is no primary for Kure. And in fact should probably be a dab page per AjaxSmack below. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:50, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kure Atoll, often called simply "Kure", is a challenge to the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC argument. Per User:Crouch, Swale, either Kure, Hiroshima should be moved as proposed, or Kure (disambiguation) should be moved to Kure. — AjaxSmack 17:17, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. The Japanese city looks like the primary topic compared with the atoll, and has already been ptopic since 2009 anyway, so this just moves it to the more concise title. — Amakuru (talk) 15:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That technically isn't the case for all readers since the redirect is only one way people find things. In Googling for example they have been finding "Kure, Hiroshima" and "Kure (atoll)" as choices. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:53, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment — A similar question covering multiple cities is discussed at Talk:Nagano, Nagano#Requested move 29 July 2018. Certes (talk) 20:01, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for reasons discussed at length previously in WP:MOS-JA and other city naming discussions. With Kure Naval Arsenal, Kure Naval District, JMSDF Kure Naval Base, and the above Kure (atoll), there is sufficient reason to keep the present naming structure. --MChew (talk) 10:28, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This article is the first thing that comes up when I google. Nine Zulu queens (talk) 06:27, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – and move the disambiguation page back. A term this ambiguous doesn't need a primarytopic. Dicklyon (talk) 19:44, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, not a clear primary topic for "Kure". Move the disambiguation page as needed. Dekimasuよ! 02:28, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Page views shows an unpopulated Hawaiian atoll getting more hits than a Japanese city with over 200,000 residents. Go figure. wbm1058 (talk) 17:48, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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