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Requested move 30 July 2019
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. After the discussion below and the creation of new articles and redirects, this is still the only film with this title. Number 57 14:42, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
- Kiss Me, Kill Me (2015 film) → Kiss Me, Kill Me
- Kiss Me, Kill Me → Kiss Me, Kill Me (disambiguation)
– Unnecessary disambiguation, no other articles with this title. The only other items listed on the dab page are a 1976 tv movie which has no article, and the 1973 film Baba Yaga. A hatnote should be sufficient to distinguish from the latter. PC78 (talk) 23:41, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Station1 (talk) 01:21, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:50, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Comment GBooks only mentions Kiss Me, Kill Me (1973 film), and Kiss Me, Kill Me (2009 film) not this one. That did not have an article on English WP, only on Korean. But even so, there's nothing about this 2015 film that jumps out and says primary topic. I'd say WP:NOPRIMARY. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:45, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Lugnuts: can you see whether that poster on the 1973 film is the Italian poster or English? The English DVD on Amazon appears to be Kiss Me Kill Me. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- NB WP:no other articles with this title needs to redirect somewhere. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:56, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- Without providing a link I can't tell which DVD release you are looking at; however, this appears to be the most recent UK/Region 2 release, and this is the latest US/Region 1 release. In both cases the title used is Baba Yaga. PC78 (talk) 09:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: Kiss Me, Kill Me (2009 film) now exists as an article, so the "no other articles with this title" is now moot. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- That's true. The reason to support the move must now be amended to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - Station1 (talk) 20:00, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- It's moot but it's also wrong. Whenever we see a RM with that rationale it should automatically be rejected/questioned. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not moot at all; while I appreciate the creation of a micro stub for the Korean film, the correct title is Kill Me and so there is still just the one article. I have, however, added the dab page to this discussion as it now clearly serves a purpose. PC78 (talk) 04:05, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- It's moot but it's also wrong. Whenever we see a RM with that rationale it should automatically be rejected/questioned. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- That's true. The reason to support the move must now be amended to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - Station1 (talk) 20:00, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Support. Even with the new-article boost, the 2009 film is getting much fewer views than the 2015 film. I'd expect it to settle down to about 5 views/day compared with 30. IMO the 2015 film is WP:PTOPIC. Narky Blert (talk) 17:09, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Narky Blert: you compared to the wrong film - it is the 1973 film which is getting most views. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:35, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- @In ictu oculi: I left the 1973 film out of the analysis because it's an alternate title. Your recently-created redirect Kiss Me, Kill Me (1973 film) gets fewer than 5 views/day, and I suspect most of those are a result of this discussion. Narky Blert (talk) 08:43, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- So what? "I left the 1973 film out of the analysis because it's an alternate title." how is this relevant? In ictu oculi (talk) 13:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- @In ictu oculi: I left the 1973 film out of the analysis because it's an alternate title. Your recently-created redirect Kiss Me, Kill Me (1973 film) gets fewer than 5 views/day, and I suspect most of those are a result of this discussion. Narky Blert (talk) 08:43, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Narky Blert: you compared to the wrong film - it is the 1973 film which is getting most views. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:35, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- Strong oppose - of the 4 films this one is second in page views and nowhere in terms of second criteria of WP:PT In ictu oculi (talk) 08:36, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- As Narky Blert suggests above, page views for Baba Yaga (film) are irrelevant because the title of that page is not "Kiss Me, Kill Me", nor has it been shown that this is a common title for that film. PC78 (talk) 04:05, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.