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Requested move 17 February 2017

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Hariboneagle927 makes a good point. No prejudice against a new RM after the trial(s). Jenks24 (talk) 06:39, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]



Kidnapping and killing of Jee Ick-JooKidnapping and murder of Jee Ick-JooWP:Commonname. The common name for these incidents seem to be "Kidnapping and murder of..." such as Kidnapping and murder of Yaron Chen and Kidnapping and murder of Moisés Sánchez Cerezo. It has been established that this was not some random killing and he was murdered premeditatedly due to a suspected crime. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 16:42, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose although casual conversation, "murder" and "killing" are interchangeable. The two words have different meaning in legally. Murder has potential nonNPOV issues. I suggest waiting for convictions of Jje's killers before renaming the article to the proposed title. "killing" does not suggest that the crime was random or not premeditated and the current title is neutral and does not take sides either with Supporters of Jee or the accused police officers.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 23:27, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move 14 November 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. All responses are in favor of retaining the current title, under the basis that the perpetrators in this topic were not convicted of "murder", which is the bar for usage of that term per WP:DEATHS (see the flowchart).

One response noted that the convictions were for "Kidnapping with homicide", which was interpreted as not being "murder" - since this specific legal question can't be resolved here, I will say that future interpretation (by sources) could still affect the title (especially given that this still had fairly limited participation given the topic and its usual level of discussion), but for the time being it looks like we have consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 16:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Kidnapping and killing of Jee Ick-JooMurder of Jee Ick-Joo – As per the above discussion from 2017, several people have now been convicted of murdering Jee Ick-Joo, therefore the title should be changed from "killing" to "murder".--Tulzscha (talk) 14:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe Kidnapping and murder? The kidnapping seems to be a big part here. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, yeah, oppose, they do not seem to have been convicted of murder. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.