Talk:Kesha/Archive 3
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Edit request from 173.81.38.195, 30 September 2010
{{edit semi-protected}} September is misspelled in the first paragraph.
173.81.38.195 (talk) 21:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- Baha, thank you for noticing that. Its been corrected. :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 21:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
AMA nominations.
http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/10/12/american-music-awards-nominees-2010/
Favorite Female Artist
Artist of the Year
T-Mobile Breakthrough Artist Nominations
Please :)? Fixer23 (talk) 23:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Done - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 23:50, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for this time and the last time :D Fixer23 (talk) 23:53, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Poor pictures
Both of the pictures in this article look like they were taken with cell phone cameras. They're fuzzy and her face isn't clearly visible in either of them. Does anybody know of other pictures that can be used? Chris3145 (talk) 07:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately there aren't any at the moment, if you have any that were taken personally they could be uploaded to Wikipedia. However, as it stands there aren't any good pictures that would be acceptable according to Wikipedia's policies. I am watching flickr for possible uploads as they come. I would think her summer long tour with Rihanna would yield many good pictures.
- The poor quality of the pictures has been raised many times, however there are some editors who insist that having a bad picture is better than none. So the pictures remain because of their objections. Fixer23 (talk) 09:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
We have a pic now! Awesome. Fixer23 (talk) 22:31, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, i emailed the girl and got her to change the license for me so i could upload it :) (CK)Lakeshade✽talk2me 22:32, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- It'd still be nice to have a different picture - the colour is pretty horrible, it's dim, the angle is weird, the glasses and hair obscure her face, that's an odd pose, and though it's not really the ultimate concern, it's hardly flattering. Looking over the category it's probably the best we have for now but certainly it'd be nice to keep an eye out for a better one. I tried cropping this one but it still ends up weird and low quality.
- I actually rather liked the old image, poor quality that it was it certainly conveyed dynamism on the stage (on a page about a performer) but the current "suffusions of bubblegum" version is still better. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 15:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
IMHO the pic under Kesha discography is a more accurate representation than the one on hr main page, thoughts? (10/22/10) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.29.85 (talk) 21:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Template Kesha, re "We R Who We R"
Re. Template:Kesha and the possible addition of "We R Who We R"
There seems to be a bit of edit-warring going on over this, so I've asked people to discuss it. If anyone else could pop in to the discussion, and give an opinion, that'd help. Thanks!
Please comment in Template talk:Kesha#We R Who We R.
(personally, I've no idea who is right or wrong...nor do I care, really; I'm just trying to resolve the dispute)
Thanks, Chzz ► 16:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Associated Acts
I think another Associated act with Ke$ha would be 3oh!3 would it not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ILikeToEditKesha (talk • contribs) 12:42, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Dannkane, 8 November 2010
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---Animal and Cannibal---
Kesha attended the MTV Europe Music Awards on Sunday 7th November 2010 in Madrid, Spain. She was nominated for one award, Best New Artist which she went on to win. She also performed Tik Tok later on that night.[1]
Dannkane (talk) 14:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Not done: I'm not sure that your source qualifies as reliable according to Wikipedia's standards. However, since you should be able to edit the page yourself, I'm going to decline the request. -Atmoz (talk) 18:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Sections
This user keeps placing Right Round and career beginnings under Animal because he is hung up about the years overlapping. No matter how you put it, that information belongs under Career beginnings because that is precisely what it is. Career beginnings. Already, insisting that Animal begin from 2009 is a stretch as the album was only released in 2010 and the section is about the album, not the single, but whatever. On a side note, he also insists something about life not being life or something convoluted like that and splits the sections for no reason. I think we should clarify things here to prevent an edit war on something so silly and because edit summaries are limited. Fixer23 (talk) 13:09, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, let me explain this to you. It only makes sense to have the info about Right Round, signing a record deal, and Tik Tok along with Animal, because that's how I guess you can say, her career really started. The beginnings is more or less about what happened before she made it big. And for the life and career, the only part of it about her life is her early life. For example of what I mean, Rihanna's page has information about her domestic violence case, and Britney Spears' has information about her marriage, breakdown, etc, while Kesha's only mentions her early life, so it should be more as Christina Aguilera's. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:02, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. "that's how I guess you can say, her career really started" Exactly! Beginnings and start are the same thing. Her career only seriously came to fruition with the release of her album/single that was met with success, everything before that was culminating to that. On the life thing, well in my opinion it it hard for there to be a separate section for life and career since she is living her life and her career. I could argue that the charity thing is not a shrewd career move but just a Nashville girl giving back. You see it's just really hard to separate the two. Also in Christina Aguilera's case, there is also a separate section for personal life, which is why early life is separated. Anyway, that's my take. Cheers! Fixer23 (talk) 23:12, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- I get what you're saying, but the year's overlapping is also a problem, in my opinion. And since Tik Tok was released in 2009, that's when her career really took off. But I don't see a problem in overlapping them, I guess it doesn't say anywhere it isn't supposed to happen, it's just ugly in my opinion. Yeah, and there isn't really much known about her personal life, so a section like that can't really be included. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- That was why I proposed for Animal to start with 2010, since that was actually when "Animal" started. But really you can't do anything about it, it's not the encyclopedia's fault that artists albums aren't all released at the start of the year. On the personal section thing, in my opinion, there really isn't a point for it being separate like in Christina Aguilera. But I guess that's personal preference. In any case it doesn't really bug me, the only thing I was actually iffy about was Right Round under Animal. Also, I reread my earlier posts and I think I came off a little brash. I apologise for that. Thanks for being so understanding. Fixer23 (talk) 23:22, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- It's alright. I probably should have took it to here first, but I thought that it didn't matter much. I'll move Right Round back to beginnings, but the Tik Tok part should remain in the Animal section. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:29, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- That was why I proposed for Animal to start with 2010, since that was actually when "Animal" started. But really you can't do anything about it, it's not the encyclopedia's fault that artists albums aren't all released at the start of the year. On the personal section thing, in my opinion, there really isn't a point for it being separate like in Christina Aguilera. But I guess that's personal preference. In any case it doesn't really bug me, the only thing I was actually iffy about was Right Round under Animal. Also, I reread my earlier posts and I think I came off a little brash. I apologise for that. Thanks for being so understanding. Fixer23 (talk) 23:22, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- I get what you're saying, but the year's overlapping is also a problem, in my opinion. And since Tik Tok was released in 2009, that's when her career really took off. But I don't see a problem in overlapping them, I guess it doesn't say anywhere it isn't supposed to happen, it's just ugly in my opinion. Yeah, and there isn't really much known about her personal life, so a section like that can't really be included. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. "that's how I guess you can say, her career really started" Exactly! Beginnings and start are the same thing. Her career only seriously came to fruition with the release of her album/single that was met with success, everything before that was culminating to that. On the life thing, well in my opinion it it hard for there to be a separate section for life and career since she is living her life and her career. I could argue that the charity thing is not a shrewd career move but just a Nashville girl giving back. You see it's just really hard to separate the two. Also in Christina Aguilera's case, there is also a separate section for personal life, which is why early life is separated. Anyway, that's my take. Cheers! Fixer23 (talk) 23:12, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, let me explain this to you. It only makes sense to have the info about Right Round, signing a record deal, and Tik Tok along with Animal, because that's how I guess you can say, her career really started. The beginnings is more or less about what happened before she made it big. And for the life and career, the only part of it about her life is her early life. For example of what I mean, Rihanna's page has information about her domestic violence case, and Britney Spears' has information about her marriage, breakdown, etc, while Kesha's only mentions her early life, so it should be more as Christina Aguilera's. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:02, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, nevermind. I think it will be fine having Tik Tok in the beginnings part. For the sake of how it's worded. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:31, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Glad we could meet with a compromise. Thanks for hearing me out.Fixer23 (talk) 23:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Confused with Keisha?
I'm not sure I understand the point of having that hatnote. Fixer23 (talk) 23:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- "Ke$ha" is often mis-pronounced "kee-shuh". Conversely, people looking for "Keisha" but unaware of its spelling are likely to spell it "Kesha". Yves (talk) 23:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks got it.Fixer23 (talk) 00:52, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
kesha is best known for her hit single tick tock —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucyhu (talk • contribs) 21:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Article name change?
The artist is known and generally goes by Ke$ha, with a dollar sign ($)(see e.g., the official website at http://www.keshasparty.com/us/home). I suggest a change to the title of the article, unless there is a good reason not to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metal850 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- WP:MOSNAME. This has been discussed a number of times, and purely decorative spellings are not proper article titles. It clearly isn't pronounced ke(dollarsign)ha, and thus is decorative.--Terrillja talk 02:41, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- I agree that the spelling is decorative, however the artist stage name is accepted as "Ke$ha". The current title, "Kesha", is confusing, particullarly when linking from other articles in which her stage name is used, as there is a redirect from "Ke$ha" to "Kesha". There are examples of special characters being used in article titles, particularly where the pronunciation is different from merely reading the special characters, see e.g., !!! and will.i.am. Additionally, there are numerous instances where an artist stage name is pronounced in a manner inconsistant with the spelling of said name, see e.g., MSTRKRFT and deadmau5. Finally, the title "Kesha" is akin to ommiting a accent from a name "Beyonce" vs. "Beyoncé" Beyoncé Knowles. Metal850 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- I must agree. It does change the pronunciation, even though it isn't proper. Nowhere does she go by Kesha. And it would also get rid of those ugly "not to be confused with" things on the top. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 20:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- Having a dollar sign does not change pronunciation at all. And the templates at the top of the page are necessary for now; I actually think there should be more. Kesha is a name, and name pages always have disambiguation, in the case for Kesha Wizzart and Kesha Rogers. Yves (talk) 21:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- I must agree. It does change the pronunciation, even though it isn't proper. Nowhere does she go by Kesha. And it would also get rid of those ugly "not to be confused with" things on the top. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 20:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- I agree that the spelling is decorative, however the artist stage name is accepted as "Ke$ha". The current title, "Kesha", is confusing, particullarly when linking from other articles in which her stage name is used, as there is a redirect from "Ke$ha" to "Kesha". There are examples of special characters being used in article titles, particularly where the pronunciation is different from merely reading the special characters, see e.g., !!! and will.i.am. Additionally, there are numerous instances where an artist stage name is pronounced in a manner inconsistant with the spelling of said name, see e.g., MSTRKRFT and deadmau5. Finally, the title "Kesha" is akin to ommiting a accent from a name "Beyonce" vs. "Beyoncé" Beyoncé Knowles. Metal850 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:MOSTM it is not allowed. And changing it to Ke$ha is not allowed per WP:GA or WP:FA per manual of style violation. All her articles (except 3) are GA or FA. I dont plan on having them demoted. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 21:00, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- I have to disagree. Wikipedia:MOSTM refers only to trademarks, it is silent to the use of special characters in names. Further, the examples given are accepted alternative forms of the trademarks, whereas "Kesha" is not an accepted alternative to the artist stage name "Ke$ha", it is in fact her legal first name (since the article is about the musician and not the person, titling the article after the legal name rather than the stage name is innaproptiate). WP:MOS clearly discuss that, in artile titles, situations where a special character is an accepted part of a name the special character should be used. WP:NCM does not preclude the use of special characters in titles, rather it discuss that decorative typography should be avoided (KoЯn vs. Korn). The "$" in the musician's stage name is not merely decorative, it is in fact the proper spelling of said name, akin to Yahoo! vs. Yahoo. Metal850 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- Do you pronounce her name Ke(dollar sign)ah? No you dont, its Kesha. End of story, its not getting changed per Wikipedia:MOSTM. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 15:52, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- As I stated earlier there are examples of special characters being used in article titles, see e.g., !!! pronounced chik chik chik, will.i.am pronounced will I am and deadmau5 pronounced dead mouse. Are you suggesting that those article titles are improper? Should any instance of a special character in a name be removed, even if it leads to an undue ammount of confusion? --Metal850 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid argument. I didnt write those articles, so i dont enforce rules there cause i frankly dont care. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 19:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- What your words ought to translate into is, "I'm only going to be anal about this article." 98.204.186.88 (talk) 00:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid argument. I didnt write those articles, so i dont enforce rules there cause i frankly dont care. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 19:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- As I stated earlier there are examples of special characters being used in article titles, see e.g., !!! pronounced chik chik chik, will.i.am pronounced will I am and deadmau5 pronounced dead mouse. Are you suggesting that those article titles are improper? Should any instance of a special character in a name be removed, even if it leads to an undue ammount of confusion? --Metal850 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- Do you pronounce her name Ke(dollar sign)ah? No you dont, its Kesha. End of story, its not getting changed per Wikipedia:MOSTM. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 15:52, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- This has all been discussed before... Please read the archives of this talk page for previous discussions... WP:MOSTM states that we should avoid "using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration", but I do not believe that there has ever been a concensus regarding this... if one side or the other feels strongly about this, maybe someone should make a request for comment, and get the opinion of a larger number of editors... Also, (CK)Lakeshade, please be careful, your above comments are leaning closely towards WP:OWN, especially your comment implying that you wrote this article yourself, and are going to "enforce the rules"... - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:10, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Own has nothing to do with it, i was saying im not going to inforce rules on articles i dont care about, And also, WP:NOTFORUM comments like above should be removed. Can you expalain how calling me "anal" is constructive?. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 05:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- But comments such as "...I did not write those articles...", and "...end of story, it's not getting changed..." tend to send a vibe to other editors that you are in charge of this specific article... If I really wanted to be a dick about it, I could mention that I actually created this article, and several other editors did a lot of work on it, 6 months before you even registered... I'm just saying calm down and try to remember that we are working as a community and towards a consensus... - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:32, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- My comments are not meant to come across as own, there more so to say hey these are the rules, if you dont link them thats not my fault. Theres a different between being blunt and own, own would be me saying "no i wrote the article your not allowed to change it" which i did not say. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 05:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- No... I took "End of story, its not getting changed", and your removal of another editor's comment, to be pretty blunt... this is Wikipedia, there is no such thing as an end to the story... there are comments and consensus... I know this story (Kesha/Ke$ha) particularly well, and don't recall there ever being a consensus one way or another on the subject... minor conversations about it, but certainly no consensus... and as far as WP:MOSTM goes, while it has up until now been the de facto ruling on the subject, that's not to say that an RfC could not override it... I think this particular debate has gone on long enough, and I may take it to RFC myself in the near future if someone else doesn't first... - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:47, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- My comments are not meant to come across as own, there more so to say hey these are the rules, if you dont link them thats not my fault. Theres a different between being blunt and own, own would be me saying "no i wrote the article your not allowed to change it" which i did not say. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 05:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- But comments such as "...I did not write those articles...", and "...end of story, it's not getting changed..." tend to send a vibe to other editors that you are in charge of this specific article... If I really wanted to be a dick about it, I could mention that I actually created this article, and several other editors did a lot of work on it, 6 months before you even registered... I'm just saying calm down and try to remember that we are working as a community and towards a consensus... - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:32, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Own has nothing to do with it, i was saying im not going to inforce rules on articles i dont care about, And also, WP:NOTFORUM comments like above should be removed. Can you expalain how calling me "anal" is constructive?. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 05:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- This has all been discussed before... Please read the archives of this talk page for previous discussions... WP:MOSTM states that we should avoid "using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration", but I do not believe that there has ever been a concensus regarding this... if one side or the other feels strongly about this, maybe someone should make a request for comment, and get the opinion of a larger number of editors... Also, (CK)Lakeshade, please be careful, your above comments are leaning closely towards WP:OWN, especially your comment implying that you wrote this article yourself, and are going to "enforce the rules"... - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:10, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Also in your own link, please read the page, WP:TALKNO comments like above are to be removed as they are not constructive and rude. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 05:15, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- You misunderstand. WP:TPO says: "This generally does not extend to messages that are merely incivil; deletions of simple invective are controversial. Posts that may be considered disruptive in various ways are another borderline case and are usually best left as-is or archived." Whether calling someone "anal" is constructive or not, it clearly is not a personal attack. You should not be removing that post. Goodvac (talk) 05:22, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Also in your own link, please read the page, WP:TALKNO comments like above are to be removed as they are not constructive and rude. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 05:15, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Cannibal
http://www.amazon.com/Cannibal-Ke-ha/dp/B0046M14RG/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1290849671&sr=1-3 74.67.126.125 (talk) 09:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
CW
She was the voice behind the TV to Talk About theme for the CW promo blitz last year, is this worth mentioning in career beginnings? Fixer23 (talk) 07:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
- do you have a reliable third party source? - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:17, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- The website is blacklisted for some reason http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:L6amgKG_e8oJ:www.examiner.com/tv-insider-in-los-angeles/the-cw-is-television-s-leading-network-when-it-comes-to-music-integration+%22The+CW+is+television's+leading+network+when+it+comes+to+music%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk But I don't see how this can be unreliable since it is an interview with a primary source.Fixer23 (talk) 23:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Simpsons Opening Theme Song
I think Ke$ha's page should mention that her song, Tik Tok, was the first piece of music ever used in place of the original theme music to the introduction of the television program, The Simpsons. I think this is a significant achievement. The Simpsons have used the same theme music for every episode, for over twenty years. http://www.popeater.com/2010/05/03/the-simpsons-kesha-tik-tok/
69.254.104.251 (talk) 23:02, 3 December 2010 (UTC)Jennifer
- I disagree. That information is already mentioned on the article for "TiK ToK", and including it on the artist page would be giving it undue weight. Yves (talk) 23:05, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
EMA nominations
They're in: http://www.mtv.co.uk/events/emas/news/237873-katy-perry-lady-gaga-emas-nominations
Can someone put it in the table? :) Fixer23 (talk) 22:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Doing... :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 22:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)- Done - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 22:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
thw nomination at theb NRJ MUSIC AWARDS -best new act...... where is it????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.1.216.146 (talk) 13:39, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
kesha recibed 8 billboard awards :best new act, hot 100 song tiktok,hot 100 artist, canadian artist of the year,pop artist, digial song tiktok,digital of the year artist,pop song of the year tiktok look here = http://www.billboard.com/features/2010-in-music-the-year-that-went-pop-1004134336.story?tag=hpflash1#/charts-year-end?year=2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.1.225.144 (talk) 01:56, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Kesha's pic
Who thinks in her pic she looks like joker off batman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.7.131 (talk) 21:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Kesha?
Career Beginnings 2005-09?, she had huge success whit Tik Tok and it wasd released in 2009, this should be changed into:
Career Beginnings 2005-08
Animal & Cannibal 2009-Present --Mathiassandell (talk) 13:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- But there is considerable overlap between the two, mostly in 2009. Tik Tok only began to be successful in 2010 mostly, and Animal was released in 2010, so it doesn't make sense to put it under 2009.Fixer23 (talk) 22:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Billboard Year-End Charts 2010
Kesha "dominated" Billboard's Year-End Charts of 2010. She has the number one position as:
- Top New Artist
- Hot 100 Artist
- Hot Digital Songs Artist
- Pop Songs Artist
- Canadian Hot 100 Artist
These are not actual awards given by Billboard, but they are recognitions that can be mentioned in the awards section. Note that these are all NUMBER ONE positions, and these do not include the charts in which she achieved lower positions.
TiK ToK also received number one position in:
- Hot 100 Songs
- Hot Digital Songs
- Pop Songs
These are song recognitions and should be placed in the Year-End Charts for Kesha singles.
All of these awards can be found here:
http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-year-end?year=2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.101.184 (talk) 23:53, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
"Inspired by Clockwork Orange"
I read the citation given (39) that says her eye makeup is inspired by A Clockwork Orange. The article cited makes no mention of her makeup or of Clockwork Orange. I think that the mention should be removed.72.21.115.18 (talk) 18:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Specifically,
Her stage makeup is characterized by dramatic makeup at her right eye, inspired by A Clockwork Orange,[39] should read
Her stage makeup is characterized by dramatic makeup at her right eye...
{{subst:Edit semi-protected}} Request: Remove mention of Clockwork Orange from article
I posted this without this template, so I apologize for the double post. I don't know how to remove a section... I just want to help out a little bit. Anyhow, the article mentions that her right eye makeup was inspired by Clockwork Orange and then cites an article which makes no mention of either her makeup or Clockwork Orange. See citation 39.72.21.115.18 (talk) 18:45, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Partly done: you're right: the article initially had it, but was split off into different ones for some reason, as can be seen from other Canoe publications. The ref has been corrected, thank you. :) Yves (talk) 19:13, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
The trouble is that you have not mentioned that Kesha is motivated by - and pushed because her image is founded on - the cultural pessimism which is typified by A Clockwork Orange. This cultural pessimism comes from the Tavistock clinic, and more generally from Fabian and Conservation/Environmentalist/Eugenicist circles which are mostly based in London but which are all Anglophile.
You also have not mentioned the curious timing of Kesha's appearance, just as Kesha Rogers is having success in Texas against the same cultural pessimism that this synthetic Tavistock Kesha represents. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.39.36.110 (talk) 07:25, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- If you have reliable sources for verification, we can certainly mention that. :) Yves (talk) 16:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Jose0223, 22 December 2010
Jose0223 (talk) 13:20, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
- ✗ Not done All unreliable. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 18:31, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
help with dispute please
Can anyone here offer an Expert opinion about whether Kesha is a crunkcore Artist? Talk:Crunkcore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.116.130.250 (talk) 20:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Origin
Kesha has a Russian descent. "Kesha" is famous Russian name. Please add it in an article about her. http://www.mobiles5.com/topic/kesha-grow-a-pear —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.179.86.88 (talk) 21:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
- ✗ Not done unreliable, just because her name may be Russian doesnt mean she is. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 21:18, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Personal Life?
Pretty typical for these articles to have a personal life section discussing who they are dating, where they live and all of that. I'm sure such information is out there about her in reputable publications. I don't have time to do it myself but it would be a good edition if anybody else does. 58.11.102.120 (talk) 14:09, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Also in the personal life section, it claims she went to Brentwood High School. This is not accurate, she went to Franklin High School (I don't have the permissions to change this) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bamafan040787 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- This has been said here pretty often, but only Brentwood has ever been mentioned in print. Do you have any sources? Fixer23 (talk) 05:51, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
I have my freshman through junior yearbooks from Franklin High School that would show it (nothing electronically) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.214.14.23 (talk) 21:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 72.159.91.159, 25 January 2011
{{edit semi-protected}} Please remove "Kesha grew up without her father and does not know who he is." and replace with "Kesha has claimed she grew up without her father and does not know who he is, but he is actually Bob Chamberlain, with whom she had a relationship until the age of 19"
Source on correction: http://www.starmagazine.com/kesha_lies_about_knowing_father/news/17814
72.159.91.159 (talk) 19:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- ✗ Not done Sorry no, Kesha has stated she doesnt know him, unless we have confirmation by Kesha it will not be changed. Media reports arnt always reliable, adding such information creates BLP issues. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 19:50, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have removed the sentence. Both sources are unreliable, as they are interviews. BLP concerns affect the father too, as he is still alive. Abductive (reasoning) 21:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
NCIS
I don't know if this is important or not, but she was seen in NCIS performing We R who We R... do you think we should include this in the article?--Cucumberkvp (talk) 17:35, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with the episode/context, but it may be more appropriate in We R Who We R. ---Enigmocracy (talk) 00:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
"Philanthropist"
I don't really think that giving some money to flood victims in Tennessee makes her a "philanthropist". A lot of people donate money to charity, but they aren't all philanthropists.
Not to discount her generosity, but unless we can find more consistent, widespread or notable charity activity, I feel the term should be dropped. Enigmocracy (talk) 00:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. Fixer23 (talk) 01:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Ke$ha-A Genius?
In the November issue of Seventeen, Kesha is interveiwed and she says that she is a certified genius. And that she has a SAT score of 1500, and she likes to take classes on "...Cold War History for fun." I dunno. Should we add that she's a certified genius?66.60.210.32 (talk) 23:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- SAT score of 1500 is nothing and means nothing; people can take the test over and over. There is no such thing as a "certified genius". All that information mentioned is not new and is already in the article. Yves (talk) 23:54, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yves is right. Only a score of about 1800 and above is good. 1500 is pretty average. If anyone puts she's a certified genius on the article (she's definitely not), I'll remove it as vandalism.--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire (talk) 17:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- She said her SAT scores were out of 1600 though. Fixer23 (talk) 22:31, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yves is right. Only a score of about 1800 and above is good. 1500 is pretty average. If anyone puts she's a certified genius on the article (she's definitely not), I'll remove it as vandalism.--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire (talk) 17:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
I am not familiar with the 'technical' requirements for being a genius, but she was enrolled in the International Baccalaureate program [2], which is very high level and difficult AND not mentioned in her article. It was also Columbia University[3] where she studied psychology [4] not Belmont U or Cold War history 24.35.115.9 (talk) 21:41, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- She never completed the IB program. The IB program offically starts junior year of high school and she had dropped out of the program by then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.214.14.22 (talk) 21:01, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- She listened in on Cold War classes at Belmont, you don't have to attend a university to crash lectures.Fixer23 (talk) 22:31, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
The source provided for her 1500 score does not say that she got a 1500. Perhaps it did once and they took it down (probably because it wasn't verified). Anyway, it should be removed. I'd do it but apparently I can't. And no, 1500 is not a genius - that's hilarious.
- It was originally sourced for "near perfect", but someone changed it. I don't know if 1500 out of 1600 is considered near perfect, but it was in inverted commas... I'll resource. Thanks for pointing it out.Fixer23 (talk) 11:00, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
1500 SAT - STILL NO SOURCE: Currently, this article states that "She described herself in an interview as being "very studious" in school; she was in the International Baccalaureate program and achieved an SAT score of 1500 out of 1600". The source? Billboard.com, which says this, "She says she got a 1500 on her SATs and was enrolled in an "international baccalaureate" program. ." SO this 1500 score is completely unverified, it's just something she's claimed in interviews (Jessica Simpson, anyone?). Edit this article to reflect that. It's presenting it as if it's a fact, and it's probably entirely untrue to begin with. THANKS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.47.119 (talk) 23:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
- And how do you suggest it be verified? Is there a database on such information? Fixer23 (talk) 23:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I would personally remove the two lines. --Guerillero | My Talk 00:35, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think I'm inclined towards that as well. On an unrelated note, you know this wouldn't be a problem if it was an artist who made "respectable" music. Fixer23 (talk) 00:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Gold tooth
Seems permanent. Thoughts? Should it be mentioned? http://www.popeater.com/2010/10/16/keshe-gold-tooth/ There's even a picture of it in Commons. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kesha_austria_6.jpg Fixer23 (talk) 12:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- A single gold tooth is nothing too great to talk about; there is a good number of people who have gold caps on their teeth, and even "grills" seem to have a pretty noticeable following (albeit not very large percentage-wise). I don't think it's worth a mention. --JB Adder | Talk 09:15, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Ke$ha's sexuality
I just saw a video of Ke$ha's support for an addendum to the Marriage Law in Australia to be changed to allow same-sex coupling (found here). In it, she uses the phrase "we are who we are" in a context that seems to indicate that she may possibly be a lesbian (or at least non-heterosexual). Is this true, and iof so, are there any (solid) sources that support this? --JB Adder | Talk 09:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Nah you're reading into it too much. It's her single's name and the message she's trying to convey. Fixer23 (talk) 11:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)