Talk:Kashag

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Contested speedy deletion

This article already has a reference. The new user who created it didn't use an introduction sentence, but let's not be bitey. --Gimme danger (talk) 16:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rephrasing lead sentence

The current lead sentence seems too narrowly formulated and inexact ("The Kashag was the governing council of Tibet during Qing Dynasty and Republic of China").

In particular, the institution of the Kashag has continued in Tibet during the 1950-1959 period and in exile since. It seems for example that it is the Kashag that has signed the appeal of the Tibetan goverment to the United Nations in 1950. Would it be possible to modify the lead sentence in order to include the most recent aspects of the Kashag from 1950 to present.Pseudois (talk) 20:09, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There (unsourced) sentence "It was set by Qianlong Emperor in 1751" is also conflicting with information at http://tibet.net/about-cta/executive/about-us/historical-background/ which dates the creation of the Kashag in 1642. Any expert editor could comment on it?--Pseudois (talk) 00:04, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to work on this some using the information in Goldstein. Not sure I will answer that particular question but there is almost no information in the article now about the government of Tibet. User:Fred Bauder Talk 00:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Pseudois that we should explain the continuity of the Kashag after 1951. As for its establishment, all the sources I've seen date it to 1751. The Dalai Lama's government was established in 1642, and there were probably councils and cabinets at times before 1751, but the significance of that year is the transition from a secular viceroy (desì) ruling in the name of the Dalai Lama to a council ruling in the name of the Dalai Lama. Most sources seem to agree that the change was initiated by the Emperor, motivated by the fact that he had just put down a rebellion by a desì who had recently inherited the position from his father, Pholhane.—Greg Pandatshang (talk) 04:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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