Talk:Kash Patel
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Alex Ward was wrong
[edit]This article needs to be updated with the latest reporting from Axios (https://www.axios.com/off-the-rails-trump-cia-kash-patel-6c5ea317-43e9-48da-993f-5c7ab823c4c1.html), as well as the fact that there's a new administration. -- 72.194.4.183 (talk) 07:25, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
This article needs to be updated in that it refers to the Nunez memo as alleging FBI misconduct in the FISA Court warrant applications when in fact FBI malfeasance was proven in the Muller Report and by the Justice Department Inspector General. On one hand the FBI obscured salient facts about the source of much information the Warrents were based on. Most egregiously, an FBI lawyer responsible for preparing the 4th warrent request falsified and altered evidence to make it appear that Carter Page was not a CIA source when in fact they had stated he was. Johnnsmiley (talk) 07:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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Add the following information to the "Early Career" section discussing his employment as a trial attorney in the United States Department of Justice National Security Division:
In February 2016, Patel sparked controversy after attending a court proceeding before a District Court Judge in Houston without proper attire. The Judge commented to Patel: "what is the utility to me and to the people of America to have you fly down here at their expense, eat at their expense and stay at their expense when there are plenty of capable people over there, in this room plus over there? You’re just one more nonessential employee from Washington. . . . You don’t add a bit of value, do you?"
The Judge suggested taxpayer money by attending the hearing in the first place. He subsequently excused Patel from the proceedings and issued an "Order on Ineptitude" to describe his conduct.
[2] [3] Smooster1213 (talk) 00:09, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Not done. WP:UNDUE concerns, not WP:NPOV. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 01:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Incredible repudiation of documented and linked information on this topic - very relevant to the main entry. Who are these people - GanBarRuby? Kash Patel? Jack Ruby? SUPPRESSORS with Pre-Judice.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8a:400:8710:85d2:87fd:6243:61bf (talk • contribs) 17:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Done I concur, so I've added some of the material to the article. There are WP:NPOV problems without it, which would seem to be covering up the warts and blemishes on this BLP. Elizium23 (talk) 06:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Incredible repudiation of documented and linked information on this topic - very relevant to the main entry. Who are these people - GanBarRuby? Kash Patel? Jack Ruby? SUPPRESSORS with Pre-Judice.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8a:400:8710:85d2:87fd:6243:61bf (talk • contribs) 17:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/you-dont-add-a-bit-of-value-do-you-texas-judge-berates-government-lawyers/2016/02/11/0b3a181c-d006-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html
- ^ https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/
- ^ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/you-dont-add-a-bit-of-value-do-you-texas-judge-berates-government-lawyers/2016/02/11/0b3a181c-d006-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html
- The information is no longer in the article, and I agree with that decision. Yes, this is well sourced, but the bottom line is that's it's a story about a single screw-up (or, if you will, a bunch of mistakes involving a single case). And that isn't appropriate for Wikipedia, which is about providing an **overview**. [If this were an article about an attorney who had been disbarred for a series of mistakes, or who had been covered in media as having an erratic legal career, then sure, this issue should be included. But Patel isn't in either category.] -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Lol, this is one of the most biased, poorly sourced Wikipedia entries I think I've seen.
[edit]It seems wikipedia isn't even attempting to create the veneer that it is an apolitical, fact based source. Briandrewdrew (talk) 02:21, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- WP:SOFIXIT. clpo13(talk) 02:33, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Correct. Wikipedia is nowhere near reality. They should have just stuck with movie articles and basic pop culture. They can't even get the ABBA page done right. Good grief! 2600:1700:9F90:2EA0:986B:ABB8:6062:F40E (talk) 16:14, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- If either of you want to improve the article by pointing out biased sources, or statements in the article that are wrong [and providing a source for why you think they are wrong], that would be great. Other, you're not really helping. (See fake news.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:16, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- Correct. Wikipedia is nowhere near reality. They should have just stuck with movie articles and basic pop culture. They can't even get the ABBA page done right. Good grief! 2600:1700:9F90:2EA0:986B:ABB8:6062:F40E (talk) 16:14, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
PLEASE REMOVE ATTEMPTS.
[edit]The truth is they didn't attempt, they had succeeded in proving that Christopher Steele, author of the "Steele Dossier" was paid for by the DNC by using a subpoena on a bank, forcing Fusion GPS to admit that Christopher Steele had been paid for by the DNC, aswell as having 65 "witnesses" ranging from attorney generals to James Comey himself, admit under oath, that there was no evidence or information that the Trump administration colluded, conspired, or coordinated with any member of the Russian government to secure the election victory.
STOP BEING BIAS AND JUST TELL THE TRUTH. 65.94.104.215 (talk) 20:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Unhinged WP:OR nonsense. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:49, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, you are, Snoogan. And stay off my pages at Uncyclo. Nobody cares what your problem is. 2600:1700:9F90:2EA0:986B:ABB8:6062:F40E (talk) 16:16, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- It would be very helpful if, when you don't like some text in the article, that you actually include the text that you don't like when you post to a Talk page like this. Wikipedia articles change all the time; I have no idea exactly what the (claimed) problem is. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:22, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Photo
[edit]That's one heck of a picture of Kash Patel. No political bias here. -- AstroU (talk) 14:23, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @AstroU: If there is a better picture at Wikimedia Commons, please suggest it here (provide a link). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:22, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
You need better sources
[edit]This is totally politically biased. The story on the fundraising event?: Really? 2600:1700:7D20:AB60:43ED:11DB:1B62:40A4 (talk) 02:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing anything about a fundraising event. If it's still in the article, please include a sentence or two, here, so it's easy to find. And if there are other things in the article that you (or others) think are politically biased, please be specific about what they are (provide the text in the article), and why you think there is bias (bad source, contradicted by a good source that you provide, or wording that you propose replacement wording for). [We're not mind-readers here, unfortunately, so generalities aren't really helpful.] -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
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Information in the book is not true as stated in the wiki article reads:
“Patel is the author of a children's picture book, titled The Plot Against the King, which articulates the fact that the Steele dossier was used as evidence to initiate investigations in Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. “
“ In reality the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign after a foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, told an Australian diplomat that Russia had political “dirt” on Hillary Clinton ahead of the 2016 presidential election.”
Maybe it should read:
“Patel is the author of a children's picture book, titled The Plot Against the King, which FALSELY articulates the fact that the Steele dossier was used as evidence to initiate investigations in Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. In reality the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign after a foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, told an Australian diplomat that Russia had political “dirt” on Hillary Clinton ahead of the 2016 presidential election.“ 98.110.55.11 (talk) 07:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Done. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 07:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Name
[edit]Why is his name written in “Hindi”? He’s not from India, his parents aren’t even from India but if anything shouldn’t it be in Gujaraati? 123.203.19.204 (talk) 04:33, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- You'd have to ask him why he does it, and he's not here. We go by what RS say. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:46, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- "You'd have to ask him why he does it" - He's Gujarati. Please provide a reliable source that he writes his name in a language his parents, nor he uses.
- May as well write it in Urdu and Tamil too otherwise. Until then, it will be removed. 2A02:C7C:9057:EF00:E597:96B1:39C4:BCC8 (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
he is threatening media + journalists
[edit]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/05/us/politics/trump-kash-patel-journalists.html
(also noticed in Germany: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/trump-verbuendete-patel-und-bannon-drohen-der-freien-presse-19368354.html ) Search'n'write (talk) 19:16, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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