Talk:Kandy Tuskers in 2020

This article was nominated for deletion on 9 January 2021. The result of the discussion was keep.

A fact from Kandy Tuskers in 2020 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 March 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Jaffna Stallions took home the trophy for the inaugural season of the Lanka Premier League in 2020, besting the Galle Gladiators, the Dambulla Viiking, and the Kandy Tuskers, despite failing to record a win against the Colombo Kings?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jaffna Stallions in 2020.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the LPL team the Kandy Tuskers are owned by Bollywood actor Sohail Khan?~~ Source: https://news.abplive.com/entertainment/movies/sohail-khan-becomes-proud-owner-of-kandy-tuskers-franchise-in-lanka-premier-league-2020-1370130
- ALT1:~~... that the Kandy Tuskers came last in the inaugural LPL?~~ Source: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/lanka-premier-league-2020-21-1237339/points-table-standings
  - ALT2:~~... that the Sri Lankan Lanka Premier League cricket team the Kandy Tuskers are owned by Bollywood actor Sohail Khan?~~ Source: https://news.abplive.com/entertainment/movies/sohail-khan-becomes-proud-owner-of-kandy-tuskers-franchise-in-lanka-premier-league-2020-1370130
    - ALT3:... that LPL cricket team the Kandy Tuskers won 2 out of 8 matches in the 1st LPL meaning they finished last? Source: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/lanka-premier-league-2020-21-1237339/points-table-standings
      - ALT4:... that the Kandy Tuskers replaced Chris Gayle with Brendan Taylor after Gayle withdrew from the Lanka Premier League? Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/news-lpl-2020-kandy-tuskers-sign-brendan-taylor-chris-gayle-s-replacement
        ALT6:... that the highest total of the 2020 Lanka Premier League was made by Kandy Tuskers, despite the fact they won only 2 matches? Source:https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/team/highest_innings_totals.html?id=865;type=trophy
        ALT7:... that both the highest and the lowest total of the 2020 Lanka Premier League were both made by Kandy Tuskers in 2020 against the same team the Colombo Kings? Source:[1][2]
        ALT8:... that in 2020, Kandy Tuskers made the Lanka Premier League's highest and also the lowest target against the same team Colombo Kings? Source:[3][4]

Created by Fade258 (talk). Nominated by CreativeNorth (talk) at 12:45, 12 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

The source reflects the hook, and the article appears appropriate, but the hook doesn't make sense to an average reader. Suggest something like: that the Sri Lankan Lanka Premier League cricket team the Kandy Tuskers is owned by Bollywood actor Sohail Khan? Sadads (talk) 13:41, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sadads: I've took your advice with ALT2, does it look any better. Thanks. CreativeNorth (talk) 18:49, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That looks right, lets go with ALT2, Sadads (talk) 21:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but none of the hooks are accurate because they make you think you're clicking on Kandy Tuskers, not an article about their 2020 season. Please write a different hook that clues the reader to the topic. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Is ALT3 alright? Thanks. CreativeNorth (talk) 21:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CreativeNorth: well, it's almost identical to another nomination, Template:Did you know nominations/Galle Gladiators in 2020. Try to be "hooky" rather than spell everything out. Yoninah (talk) 22:10, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Sorry if I'm being annoying. But I've tried to make ALT3 less wordy and also added an ALT4. Thanks. CreativeNorth (talk) 17:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CreativeNorth: as I said above, these new hooks also make it seem like you're clicking on the team article, not the article about the 2020 season. I took a look at the article and gave it a complete copyedit. Please check to see that I understood what you were talking about (I know nothing about cricket) and then I will suggest an alt. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Thanks for the copyedit, in your opinion what would you suggest for a hook then. Thanks CreativeNorth (talk) 18:30, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Really? I got everything right? I think I mixed up wickets and runs in several places.
The Squad and Administration and support staff charts need cites, per Rule D2.
ALT5: ... that though their captain scored the most runs of any batsman in the Lanka Premier League in 2020, the Kandy Tuskers finished in last place? Yoninah (talk) 18:40, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah, I've created 3 new ALTs (6, 7 and 8). What have you to say about them? Moreover, the most runs wasn't made by Dambulla's cricketer but by Galle' batsman. Thank you. Empire AS ^Talk! 10:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Empire AS: Thanks for this, I've edited the hooks a bit to make them more hooky. @Yoninah: What do you think?

@CreativeNorth:@Empire AS: the new hooks are better. But what is a total? What is a target? You're writing for an international audience who may not know what you're referring to.
Regarding my request for sourcing on the Squads and Administrative charts, you'll see I removed them from the article because you have the squad members at least in the template below. Perhaps add the administrative members there and you won't need sourcing. Yoninah (talk) 18:18, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I went over the article again in advance of suggesting a multi-article hook and it looks all right. The number of charts in this and the other articles, though, seems to violate WP:CITEKILL. Yoninah (talk) 14:22, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Thanks for going over this again. As for the article violating WP:CITEKILL, does this need to be fixed? If so then how can this be fixed. Thanks for the feedback. CreativeNorth (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@CreativeNorth: See discussion at Talk:Galle Gladiators in 2020#Article issues. Yoninah (talk) 17:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Currently at AFD; on hold until discussion there concludes one way or the other. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AFD was closed and article remains; nomination continues at Template:Did you know nominations/Jaffna Stallions in 2020 as part of a five-article combined hook. This page will remain open in case until that page has been closed or the articles unbundled. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing... Edge3 (talk) 04:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is part of a multi-article hook documented at Template:Did you know nominations/Jaffna Stallions in 2020. New enough when nominated. Long enough. I copyedited it a bit, but otherwise it's well-written. Neutral. This article's contribution to the hook fact at the aforementioned nomination is verified. QPQ not required. Note that this article should not be promoted until the review concludes at Template:Did you know nominations/Jaffna Stallions in 2020. Edge3 (talk) 18:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]