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Requested move 27 November 2024

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Kabaddi World Cup (standard style) → Kabaddi World Cup – This the only official world cup authorised by the international federation of the sport. The others are unofficial versions hosted in unofficial capacities. There should be a separate disambiguation page for the others. Kabaddi World Cup should feature the actual World Cup. OCDD (talk) This is a contested technical request (permalink). JJPMaster (she/they) 00:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:12, 5 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Primary topic grabs are, by definition, not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 21:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All three listed topics are international competitions and are presumably considered official by those who organise them. The current title is already ambiguous, since there are two Kabaddi World Cups that are standard style – the other one being the World Cup Kabaddi (for which I just opened an RM). I suggest Kabaddi World Cup (standard style) should be moved to Kabaddi World Cup (International Kabaddi Federation). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support struck due to supporting newer suggestion from CX Zoom and 162 etc below. The IKF event does not seem especially dominant. We can't even seem to verify whether the 2025 IKF event has taken place or not. It was announced to be in January 2025, but it is now mid-February and there is no clear information about the event available on the organisation's website and basically no news evident from independent sources. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:49, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: The “standard style” kabaddi and the “standard style” world cup is the only official kabaddi and worldcup. The world cup is organised by the world governing body International Kabaddi Federation. The other types of kabaddi exist but not in official capacity. The other world cup is organised by a state government in unofficial capacity. The official world cup should not use brackets and have an unclear status because other people have decided to host tournaments. The official world cup remains the one that the official federation hosts. OCDD (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As the original proposer of the move, you should not express support for your own proposal, per WP:RMCOMMENT. Your support is implied, so I have struck through the bolded word in your comment. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: Thoughts on move to Kabaddi World Cup (International Kabaddi Federation)? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:12, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At this point, per my comment of 07:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC) above, I don't think it's necessary to add the "International Kabaddi Federation" disambiguator (and no one else has expressed a preference for that). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:41, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to Kabaddi World Cup (IKF) per MOS:ACRODAB. See my comments at Talk:World Cup Kabaddi. Unrelated standard style Kabaddi events known as World Cup are organized by World Kabaddi, and therefore the current title of this article is ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 02:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Help me understand what makes International Kabaddi Federation any more "official" than Government of Punjab, India or World Kabaddi Federation? Is one organization more intrinsically more "official" versus unofficial, outside of RS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiggerjay (talk • contribs) 04:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    IKF is recognised by Olympic Council of Asia and (as far as I understand) organises Kabaddi at the Asian Indoor & Martial Arts Games. As OCA itself is recognised by IOC, it gives IKF more legitimacy than the several other governing bodies that claim to govern Kabaddi, which remain unrecognised by any organisation of authority. "Official" was wrong terminology used by the editor. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 19:18, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Government of Punjab is a government, not a sports governing body. It hosts these competitions to promote participation. The recognized governing body of the sport is only IKF. They are the ones hosting the official competitions in terms of recognised global capacity. The only other world cup of Kabaddi is hosted by the Punjab government. Though the state government shouldn’t be naming it world cup in the first place. The world cup is hosted and recognised by the global governing body which is IKF. Apart from that standard style kabaddi is the only globally recognised format. The circle style is more local and does not extend to the sport on a global level. Thus, the “standard style Kabaddi World Cup” is the actual recognised world cup that is hosted by the main authority, is participated in by a number of countries, and follows the main type of kabaddi. All major kabaddi events and multi-sports event follow this format. Interference from non recognised bodies has created unnecessary confusion in the sport. The world cup page should be about the actual world cup instead of it disambiguating into non-recognised random tournaments. Putting IKF in the brackets as someone suggested makes no sense either. There is only one recognised governing body for kabaddi which is IKF so bracketing it would make no sense. Hope this helped. OCDD (talk) 13:17, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support move to Kabaddi World Cup (International Kabaddi Federation). —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 19:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The situation around global governance of Kabaddi is extremely complicated and those who wish to know further about it should read my long note at Special:Redirect/page/60987794#Governance of global Kabaddi and World Cups. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 19:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    To be clear, my support also extends to "(IKF)" as a disambiguator. I'm fine with both the name spelled out in full and the initialism. I preferred spelling it out in full because the other World Cup will probably have "World Kabaddi" spelled out in full as they don't appear to use "WK", so the titles would be kinda consistent. Regardless, that question could be resolved separately in a new RM specifically meant to choose between the full name & initialism, if it is overall accepted that we'd use the organisation name as the disambiguator. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 22:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I thank SafariScribe for reopening and relisting the discussion, as I hope we can get an outcome different from no consensus here. In the discussion so far, there has been no direct declaration of opposition, and three people (if we include the OP) have supported the original proposal (including myself although I said my support was "weak"). Two alternative disambiguation terms were proposed – "(International Kabaddi Federation)" and "(IKF)" – but the difference between those is minor, and no one seems to like the current title. I suggest we just accept the original proposal, justified by WP:NOTCURRENTTITLE. The current title provides a disambiguation term that does not disambiguate the topic from the World Cup competitions that have been organized by a different organization in 2019 and 2025. (And a closely related RM remains open for discussion at Talk:World Cup Kabaddi.) If we don't think primary topic status is justified here (which would also be a reasonable interpretation), I would personally be OK with either of the two suggested alternatives – but I do not think the current title is the best we can do. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Considering that both this and the other RM has been awaiting closure for a long time with no particular support either way, and some points where the current consensus appear to conflict. I think both should be IAR closed, and a fresh discussion with all affected articles be considered at a single location. We can ping the people involved so far to participate in that. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 17:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support since this has been reopened, after reviewing the responses to my question previously, I would support this move. I also would not be opposed to CX Zoom's proposal of a single multi-page move discussion. TiggerJay (talk) 17:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to Kabaddi World Cup (International Kabaddi Federation) per CX Zoom and 162 etc. There isn't a primary topic between the different variants.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fine with me. I don't see a need to wait for something else to happen. The current title has no support. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There has been no objection to that suggestion from CX Zoom for two months here. I suggest it's time to close this discussion. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:51, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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