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On 16 August 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Jordan Omogbehin to Omos. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Requested move 21 December 2020

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 19:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Omogbehin → Omos – This is his new WWE ring name and is how he is being referred to by approved WP/PW RS's. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 17:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. —Nnadigoodluck███ 12:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. —Nnadigoodluck███ 18:20, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:15, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know that finance people shouldn't write OMOs as "Omos", but you do still see it. Will it really prevent people finding the wrestler if the article is at Omos (wrestler)? In ictu oculi (talk) 22:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

if must be moved then move to Omos (wrestler) given that he's a wrestler, and Omo has several subjects that could be pluralised In ictu oculi (talk) 00:30, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose disambiguation~~ The only subjects on the page Omo that could reasonably be pluralized are all acronyms that would be written as "OMOs", and would not cause confusion, especially since "Omos" already redirects to this article. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 07:46, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of which, why did you change the redirect target of a contested move subject, @In ictu oculi:? GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 07:49, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just reverted it [and now you've put it there again], it was recent and connected so better to start from status quo rather than have "especially since "Omos" already redirects to this article" as a fait accompli. Always better to start from status quo. When we look in books and see things like "In Nigeria his Omos ( children ) dress in leopard skin and use emblems representing him , such as the bow and arrow . He plays a very important role in the life of the Yoruba since he is the provider of all meats consumed in that region" better to have some discussion first. I'm not convinced that this bodyguard is the only meaning for these four letters in the history of mankind. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:11, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Undo change of target Omos from new redirect to Jordan Omogbehin. Omos in books can refer to some of subjects on Omo dab page. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:24, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And while we're at it we should add to the dab page In ictu oculi (talk) 13:35, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Omo, Yoruba term meaning child, as seen in:
- Omo Ghetto (English translation: Child of the Ghetto) is a 2010 Nigerian crime comedy drama film
- Omo Baba Olowo (Yoruba: Son of a Rich Man) debut studio album by Nigerian singer Davido. 2012 In ictu oculi (talk) 13:35, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The raw stats (from Google Trends and Pageviews Analysis) show a massive spike in interest for the term "Omos" after this subject had his ring name changed to it, which was when @Jaguar83: changed the redirect. Everything on WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGES supports changing subject to "Omos". There is no evidence that anyone is confusing "Omos" for any of the many "Omo" subjects and those that may arise can be distinguished. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 17:11, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. We are not beholden to the fair winds of wrestling gimmicks. If the name change lasts for years, perhaps then. BD2412 T 02:51, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I retract my opposition to page being moved to Omos (wrestler) if it means this gets closed quicker. I maintain my arguments that it should be moved to Omos, but we can have this discussion again later when we see how over he gets. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 07:30, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 15 January 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 19:08, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Omogbehin → Omos (wrestler) – This is his new WWE ring name, as used by WP/PW-approved reliable sources. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 14:02, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GhostOfDanGurney, In ictu oculi, BD2412, Buidhe, and Nnadigoodluck: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @GhostOfDanGurney: see discussion at Talk:Jordan Omogbehin#Requested move 21 December 2020 which ended at 19:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC) with no consensus to move. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Anthony Appleyard: with one opposition that cited no policies, and two editors who agreed on disambiguating as Omos (wrestler).... --GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 14:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @In ictu oculi, BD2412, Buidhe, and Nnadigoodluck: They also were in the old discussion. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I closed as no consensus because I did not see a clear consensus based on the strength of arguments (between Omos, Omos (wrestler), and keeping at the current name). I would file a RM for Omos (wrestler) to see if that name has consensus. (t · c) buidhe 16:39, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My concern is that wrestlers can change their ring name as easily as they change their pants. Jordan Omogbehin will be the subject's given name no matter what he does professionally, so we may end up with a situation like that of Dwayne Johnson or Mick Foley, where at the end of the day the subject's name is their real name. BD2412 T 20:50, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as wrestlers can easily change ring names as they do with their pants per BD2412. Hansen Sebastian^Talk 05:37, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy oppose. The page GhostOfDanGurney requested has been redirected to the target page. -St3095 ^(?) 07:54, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And my request would obviously be to move the BLP to where the redirect is, no? GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 09:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 16 August 2021

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 18:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Omogbehin → Omos – Has been a staple on RAW for almost a year, and his built a lot of popularity under the name Omos including winning tag team gold. Google results also show way more results for Omos rather than his real name. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 11:11, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support move over redirect per my original move request from December 2020. The 8 months that have passed have only seen subject become more heavily featured on WWE programming under his ring name Omos. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 17:45, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support established name for many months, won a championship under the name, featured on weekly television under it. Much more notable than his real name or any other name he's been known under. Rambo Apocalypse (talk) 02:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - 8 months as Omos has granted him enough notability, what with him winning the Raw tag titles with AJ Styles. Hansen Sebastian^Talk 18:47, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per WP:COMMONNAME. Bmf 051 (talk) 01:10, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2023

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played forward for King University(Bristol, TN) during the 2014-15 season, before he transferred to the University of South Florida Sapperjason (talk) 15:47, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 17:14, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2023

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Was also a member of the King University basketball team from 2015-2016. Can be found on the King University men’s basketball roster for the 2015-2016 season. Idkwhattoputasusername (talk) 11:45, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:17, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2023

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The statement that Omos is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time does not stand scrutiny, unless the reference to greatest equates to tallest. Id that is the case, it needs clarifying. If not, it needs removing. 2A02:C7E:4CB0:9200:49F7:A3AE:4FDC:118D (talk) 21:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Omos is one of the greatest professional wrestlers of his generation. I think you misunderstood the grammar, it says regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers of his generation and not all time. He’s one of the greatest professional wrestlers of his generation is widely supported by reliable sources and the statement in this article is supported by reliable sources. Jexta8866 (talk) 03:04, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jexta8866: Sorry, but this claim that the IP is pointing out that you are defending is ridiculous and has multiple issues and should be removed promptly. The cited source says And yet, his manager MVP heaped praise on his charge on an edition of After The Bell with Corey Graves when he called the Nigerian Giant “the greatest giant to ever grace a WWE ring” and that his charge was better than Andre himself. This is a gross violation of WP:NPOV as this claim is being made by MVP (wrestler), who is the in-character manager of the subject. It is very clearly an opinion, which is being stated in wiki-voice as a fact, without even attributing where the claim is being made from.

Secondly, ITR is not a reliable source, as it is not listed on the list of reliable sources at WP:PW/RS. It should not be used at all, let alone to support an outrageously POV claim on a BLP. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 03:55, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done - I have fixed the lead of the article to remove the NPOV violations and other in-character garbage that has no place on an encyclopedia.

― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 04:02, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]