Talk:Joe Talbot (singer)

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Welsh

[1] 62.74.24.231 (talk) 18:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Protected

@BlueboyLINY and 62.74.24.231: the article has been protected from editing temporarily because of your edit war. Please discuss your proposed changes and disagreement here. If there is no discussion and you continue edit warring after protection expires, I will block you instead. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ivanvector I provided source to support Welsh over British and as for the Living people Category, it is common to be put after year of birth and not alphabetically. At least I got consensus from a third editor, in contrast to BlueboyLINY who just blind-reverted and kept stalking my talkpage with "warnings" while he was part of the edit war as well. 62.74.24.231 (talk) 20:23, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:MINREF, if you are adding or changing contentious information about a living person, you must add an inline citation to a reference which supports your edit. You did not, you left a link to a source on the talk page, and when another editor added it for you you removed it again. References on the talk page are not good enough. Maybe BlueboyLINY shouldn't have reverted you, but you should have started a discussion instead of just continuing to try to force your edit in. I don't know why the order of categories was worth edit warring over, that also should have been discussed. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the source per MOS:CITELEAD. And regarding Category of Living People, I putted it second because it's same for people who have passed away as I said in the edit summary - It goes next to year of birth, not alphabetically. 62.74.24.231 (talk) 21:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CITELEAD says you can remove citations from the lede for information that repeats cited information in the body of the article. If his nationality is not described in the article, then you need to add a citation to where it says so in the lede. The body says that he was born in Newport with a citation, but whether or not being born in a country confers nationality and whether that is clear enough to not cite his nationality where it appears are things you should discuss on the talk page if other editors disagree. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anyways, it can always be put in main body. I'm ok with it. (P.S. I've rarely to never seen nationality having citation right next to it in the lead, that's why the aforementioned suggestion). 62.74.24.231 (talk) 21:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]