Talk:Jimmy Carter/Archive 8
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 February 2024
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Former President Carter passed away on May 20, 2023, which is a significant development in his life's story. Sources are many, but here's one: https://thepoliticswatcher.com/pages/articles/white-house/2023/5/21/president-jimmy-carter-passes-98 Fekauffman (talk) 22:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Not done Please include reliable sources for edit requests. This doesn't appear reliable at all and no major media outlets ever reported that Carter was dead. Philipnelson99 (talk) 22:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Fekauffman:, I seriously worry for the future of humanity when people like yourself can't spot AI written articles and/or fake news articles intentionally designed to mislead. If President Carter had died, his Wikipedia article would be updated within 30 seconds of any official announcement. --Jkaharper (talk) 22:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate your high estimation of my abilities of discernment, but the better explanation of what happened here is Mandela effect + confirmation bias.
- Someone IRL stated something current(ish) about Carter, and I was either remembering Carter entering hospice as memory of his passing, or just jumping to "Surely, he would have died by now [if he hadn't already]," given that he had entered hospice more than a minute ago. Then, I was already postured to find an article apparently supporting that. That is its own thing, but relevant is my coming here to see that the Jimmy Carter heading didn't seem to reflect this, I offered the edit (though I would not have edited if the page were unlocked-- why I'd see a difference is a matter for my therapist). Fekauffman (talk) 22:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- This just reenforces Jkaharper's worry. As they noted, it is inconceivable that this article would have gone 9 months without mention of the subject's death. 2600:8802:5913:1700:2140:9628:326:F395 (talk) 12:41, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fekauffman:, I seriously worry for the future of humanity when people like yourself can't spot AI written articles and/or fake news articles intentionally designed to mislead. If President Carter had died, his Wikipedia article would be updated within 30 seconds of any official announcement. --Jkaharper (talk) 22:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 February 2024
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Jimmy Carter did not graduate from the Naval Academy. He is from the class of 1947. I work at the Naval Academy and confirm 100% 136.160.90.31 (talk) 22:17, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 22:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Why in the world would you think that your anonymous comment would have any weight? 2600:8802:5913:1700:2140:9628:326:F395 (talk) 12:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 April 2024
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please add how jimmy carter pardoned convicted child rapist peter yarrow at the very end of his presidency. he is the only president in history to pardon a child rapist.
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Peter_Yarrow#Criminal_conviction_and_pardon NotQualified (talk) 22:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)- how do i establish a consensus without posting to the talk page NotQualified (talk) 14:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- No one said anything about not posting to the talk page.
- You could start by proposing neutral language supported by references to reliable sources. Notably, Yarrow was not convicted of rape. 2600:8802:5913:1700:2140:9628:326:F395 (talk) 12:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- neutral language:
- "Jimmy Carter pardoned Peter Yarrow, a convicted child molester, near the end of his term" NotQualified (talk) 18:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- what consensus even needs to be gathered, it's objective fact NotQualified (talk) 14:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- How is it WP:DUE for this article? What sources and what text are you proposing to add? Since it does not appear that he was convicted of rape, your initial request was objectively false. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- depends if you consider forcing minors to masturbate you rape or not. he is a child molester, is that fair assessment? NotQualified (talk) 18:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I see that it's covered in Peter Yarrow's article. Again, how is this due for Jimmy Carter's article? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- how is it not? NotQualified (talk) 19:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I see that it's covered in Peter Yarrow's article. Again, how is this due for Jimmy Carter's article? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- depends if you consider forcing minors to masturbate you rape or not. he is a child molester, is that fair assessment? NotQualified (talk) 18:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- How is it WP:DUE for this article? What sources and what text are you proposing to add? Since it does not appear that he was convicted of rape, your initial request was objectively false. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- how do i establish a consensus without posting to the talk page NotQualified (talk) 14:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended protected
Why is this article extended protected? Dell Latitude E6400 (talk) 03:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- According to the protection log it was increased from semi protection in December 2023 due to "death hoax edits" which is reflected by the article history and many of the talk page edit requests that were made since the protection was increased. - Aoidh (talk) 04:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 May 2024
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change "Carter speaks on the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Recorded January 4, 1980" to "Carter speaks on the Iran Hostage Crisis. Recoded January 4, 1980" 182.255.32.12 (talk) 10:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Not done: He only speaks about the Iran Hostage Crisis at the start. The bulk of the speech, starting from about 1:16, is about the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. The title of the speech itself in the archives is also "January 4, 1980: Speech on Afghanistan". Liu1126 (talk) 11:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Thoughts on FA
@Informant16, ExcellentWheatFarmer, and BrownHairedGirl: since you guys are the main editors, have you thought about bringing it to Featured Article status and have it appear as WP:TFA for his 100th birthday? 750h+ 06:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 June 2024
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Please remove the claim that "his name recognition was two percent" as the reference does not back that and I cannot find an alternate source that says 2 percent (there are some that say 1 percent[1] and some that say 5 to 6[2]).
If one wants to keep the gist that his name recognition was very low change the sentence to something like " His name recognition was quite low, with his opponents derisively asking "Jimmy Who?" "
Also, the archive link seems to be down for the citation? I'm seeing: "Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine." when I click it. GrapesRock (talk) 18:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Done for the moment. Professor Penguino (talk) 03:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)