Talk:Jason Perry (singer)

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Jason Perry is a soccer player on the Rochester Raginging Rhinos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.66.37.32 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 4 February 2007

"Friend and satanist"?

I'm not expert on the background of A or Mr Carter, but I think that from a stylistic point of view at least, this needs fixing! zazpot (talk) 01:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Will add a hat note for the Plus One singer. Cúchullain ^t/c 18:38, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Perry (rock singer) → Jason Perry (singer) – Unnecessary disambiguation. --Relisted. Hot Stop talk-contribs 19:01, 8 March 2014 (UTC)--Relisted. Xoloz (talk) 01:54, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Unreal7 (talk) 13:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support, the only other singer by that name was a singer for the Christian band Plus One and he left in 02. There was once a one sentence article on him merged to the band's page. I doubt many people would be looking for him and at most a hatlink to the band's article could be added.--174.93.163.194 (talk) 03:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - "Jason Perry" "Plus One" gets enough print hits to Plus One (band) singer to not deliberately ambiguate the other Jason Perry (~~rock~~ singer) article. "Where are they now" doesn't show much, but so what, print notability is permanent. Works well as it is. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:07, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Ambiguity is a property of topics, not just of articles, and as In ictu oculi points out above, we do have coverage of another singer of that name. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:45, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per IIO. "(singer)" should point to the disambiguation page. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 04:19, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. If, as is the case now, Jason Perry (singer) is going to redirect to Jason Perry (rock singer), then there is no reason for the disambiguator. This status quo is preferable since the only other singer named Jason Perry does not have an article. In the spirit of WP:TWODABS, a hatnote like I have just added can direct seekers of the Plus One singer to the right place. — AjaxSmack 16:46, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Jason Perry (singer) is ambiguous, so it should redirect to the disambiguation page. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:11, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per BrownHairedGirl. Ambiguous topics require disambiguation in anticipation of the creation of articles. Xoloz (talk) 18:11, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support We have little to nothing to say about Jason Perry himself at Plus One (band), so make this move and use a hatnote. Please think of readers first. We only have one biography on a singer named Jason Perry; it is unclear who benefits from making that article harder to access. --BDD (talk) 18:26, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:UNDAB. Yes, Jason Perry is ambiguous, and so is Jason Perry (singer), since we have more than one use (two) for that title on WP. But the other singer use is so obscure, he doesn't even have an article, and Jason Perry (singer) already redirects to this article. The hatnote on this article is more than sufficient to manage the occasional case where someone is looking for the obscure use.
As to the "anticipation of the creation of articles", doing that violates WP:CRYSTAL and is addressed at WP:UNDAB. --B2C 19:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply. WP:UNDAB is an essay, not a policy or guideline. In any case, B2C should have disclosed that it has been massively expanded over the last few months by B2C, who has reverted changes made by another editor.
  As to whether the rock singer is a primary topic, B2C's case is based on the lack of an article, which is a self-reference and therefore irrelevant. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:56, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation." That's policy (WP:CRYSTAL) to which the essay refers. If you or anyone else thinks that the WP:UNDAB essay misrepresents policy or conventions, please express your concerns on that essay's talk page and I'll be happy to address them. Nothing of essence has changed in that essay, by the way, so I don't know why anything has to be disclosed.
    My case is not based on a lack of article per se, though that is an element. The case is based on the other use being relatively obscure, thus making this one primary. The lack of an article is evidence of the other use's relative obscurity, but taken alone it is not conclusive. I don't see what about this is a self-reference. --B2C 19:14, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The reason it is self reference is that in Google Books "Jason Perry" + "singer" refers to the American lead singer of Plus One (band). The English lead singer of A (band) gets zero references in Google Books - presumably because neither Jason Perry (British singer) nor A (band) are that notable... they just have benefited from en.wikipedia's churning out of non-notable PUFFPIECE articles on the latest pop group. Look at the source on this article, http://www.virtualfestivals.com/latest/interviews/2016 What is it about www.virtualfestivals.com which counts for more than all the Google Book hits for the Jason Perry (American singer)? In ictu oculi (talk) 10:11, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support – with the dab hatnote now added, we only need to disambiguation this article from the other "Jason Perry" articles, and Jason Perry (singer) is sufficiently unambiguous in that regard. Maybe at some later point a page will be developed for the other singer, or a new Jason Perry who sings will appear and get an article, but in the meantime "singer" suffices with concision. ENeville (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - If down the road we need a article for another jason perry who is a singer, we can disambiguate through his title. Honestly, its not a huge deal. Jay Dubya (talk) 15:32, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Bieber quote

Is anyone able to provide a source for the Justin Bieber quote? If not it should definitely be removed.79.69.22.120 (talk) 17:55, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]