Talk:Japanese government–issued dollar in Malaya and Borneo
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This article contains a translation of Dolar dikeluarkan kerajaan Jepun di Malaya, Borneo Utara, Sarawak dan Brunei from ms.wikipedia. |
On 29 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Japanese government-issued dollar in Malaya and Borneo to Japanese government–issued dollar in Malaya and Borneo. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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[edit]I'm not sure a link to this page belongs in the main currency page. I'm also not sure why the reference should only be to Singapore, since notes bearing the banana design were issued throughout Malaya and the Netherlands Indies.
Dove1950 21:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- Um, feel free to expand the scope, I guess. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (Be eudaimonic!) 15:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- One and a half years on, and no work was done, pitiful. Anyway, there were also unathorised one-sided copies of the $10 bill used as Allied air-dropped leaflets warning of the impending uselessness of the currency once the Japanese were defeated, as well as banana notes converted into war souvenirs. Will look into a Malaysian currency book for reference, followed by a revision of the article. - Two hundred percent (talk) 07:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- There. Easy as mothereffin' pie. - Two hundred percent (talk) 17:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]Japanese Guilder links to ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.29.223 (talk) 18:38, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: move the article to Japanese government-issued dollar in Malaya and Borneo, with a redirect from "Borneo and Malaya," per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 02:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Japanese government-issued dollar in Singapore, Malaya, North Borneo, Sarawak and Brunei → Japanese government-issued dollar in Malaya, Singapore, North Borneo, Sarawak and Brunei – Singapore is prioritised over Malaya in the title when the banknotes' "M" stamps indicate a centralisation of the currency distribution around Malaya. --Relisted. Andrewa (talk) 18:21, 30 September 2014 (UTC) - 118.100.232.210 (talk) 18:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- Why is this not alphabetized? Support only Japanese government-issued dollar in Brunei, Malaya, North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore Red Slash 03:26, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Why not "Japanese government-issued dollar" (there weren't any others, although there may be confusion with 19th-century trade dollars) or "Japanese government-issued dollar in the Malay Peninsula and Borneo"? —innotata 18:21, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: I think that Innotata makes a very good point. Neither the current nor the proposed title seem optimum to me, I'd be surprised if there's not a more concise title. At the very least these alternative proposals need an answer. Andrewa (talk) 18:21, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Why not simply Japanese dollar? Dekimasuよ! 10:16, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- That's definitely ambiguous, because that would normally refer to Japanese trade dollars, and perhaps inappropriate because they weren't a currency within Japan itself (the other pages in Category:Japanese invasion money make this distinction). I think Japanese government-issued dollar in the Malay Peninsula and Borneo would be best. —innotata 21:32, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- Or Japanese government-issued dollar in
theMalaya and Borneo? — AjaxSmack 03:01, 5 October 2014 (UTC)- "Malaya" is a political term, and "Malay Peninsula" is purely geographic. I'm not sure how best to include the island of Singapore, but I'm inclined toward "Malay Peninsula". I'm assuming that's not what you intended, but "the Malaya" would be wrong. —innotata 03:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm...I thought the opposite. "Malay Peninsula" (sometimes a substitute for West Malaysia) could seem to exclude Singapore whereas "Malaya" (i.e. British Malaya comprising Straits Settlements, Federated Malay States and Unfederated Malay States) wouldn't (Singapore wasn't separate until 1946). In addition, "Malay Peninsula" is a bit anachronistic vis-à-vis "Malaya" for the 1940s. However, I'm not that particular. Like you, I just don't like a long list of all territories concerned, especially if Labuan is excluded. — AjaxSmack 03:23, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sure. (You didn't mean to include the "the" though, right?) —innotata 03:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- No I didn't. Thanks. — AjaxSmack 05:36, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Would Japanese government-issued dollar in Borneo and Malaya be acceptable, since this would also address the concern of Red Slash about alphabetization? Dekimasuよ! 23:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think alphabetisation matters when you've got just two names, and Malaya was more important then, &c. … but I don't think it matters. —innotata 01:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- In that case, if there is any objection to "Malaya and Borneo," it can be brought up again later. Dekimasuよ! 02:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think alphabetisation matters when you've got just two names, and Malaya was more important then, &c. … but I don't think it matters. —innotata 01:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- Would Japanese government-issued dollar in Borneo and Malaya be acceptable, since this would also address the concern of Red Slash about alphabetization? Dekimasuよ! 23:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- No I didn't. Thanks. — AjaxSmack 05:36, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sure. (You didn't mean to include the "the" though, right?) —innotata 03:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm...I thought the opposite. "Malay Peninsula" (sometimes a substitute for West Malaysia) could seem to exclude Singapore whereas "Malaya" (i.e. British Malaya comprising Straits Settlements, Federated Malay States and Unfederated Malay States) wouldn't (Singapore wasn't separate until 1946). In addition, "Malay Peninsula" is a bit anachronistic vis-à-vis "Malaya" for the 1940s. However, I'm not that particular. Like you, I just don't like a long list of all territories concerned, especially if Labuan is excluded. — AjaxSmack 03:23, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- "Malaya" is a political term, and "Malay Peninsula" is purely geographic. I'm not sure how best to include the island of Singapore, but I'm inclined toward "Malay Peninsula". I'm assuming that's not what you intended, but "the Malaya" would be wrong. —innotata 03:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Or Japanese government-issued dollar in
- That's definitely ambiguous, because that would normally refer to Japanese trade dollars, and perhaps inappropriate because they weren't a currency within Japan itself (the other pages in Category:Japanese invasion money make this distinction). I think Japanese government-issued dollar in the Malay Peninsula and Borneo would be best. —innotata 21:32, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
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