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About change which I did: He was definitely Czech. Czech lands belonged to the Austria-Hungary in that times, but he was not Austrian due to. In the Austria-Hungary lived many nations (Austrians, Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks, Croatians,...). Dačice is in Czech Republic, that is obvious. And "Jakub Kryštof" is definitely Czech name (have you ever seen "š" in German language?) (excuse bad english) --Dr. Killer (talk) 23:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He was born into a German-Austrian family. In Bohemia and Moravia a big German minority was living during that time. In some areas they were the majority. "Jacob Christoph Rad" also grew up in Tarnów (nowadays Poland) before moving with his family to Vienna (nowadays Austria). He came to Datschitz (nowadays Dačice) 1840. So he was 41 years old before going to Moravia. He definitly is of German-Austrian descent. Writing his name in Czech doesn't make him more Czech. Same with "František Kafka". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.67.37.130 (talk • contribs)

Yes, so it is. There are no sources about a "Czech descent" of Jakob Christoph Rad. I have deleted it, but it should be also reconsidered to rename the article to the original German name (and the Czech name as a redirect). --Mmh (talk) 21:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here, the record of his death can be found. It is the book of the deceased of the parish of "Unsere Liebe Frau zu den Schotten" in Vienna. The name is spelled as Jakob Christof Rad. --Mmh (talk) 22:34, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Since nobody else has done it, I insert the move request here. --Mmh (talk) 08:07, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 October 2017

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The result of the move request was: Moved.Granted as a non-controversial request(non-admin closure) Winged Blades^Godric 13:15, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jakub Kryštof Rad → Jakob Christof Rad – As I have writen above, there are no sources about a Czech descent of Jakob Christof Rad, that is why there is no reason to spell the name in Czech instead of German. the record of his death shows the spelling Jakob Christof Rad. Mmh (talk) 08:07, 27 October 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 15:46, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Rad Jakob Christof, inventor and technical writer. [born] Rheinfelden, Kt. Aargau (Switzerland), 25 March 1799; [died] Vienna, 13 October 1871. Spent childhood and youth in Vienna, was trained as a merchant and was temporarily living abroad, long without a fixed position.

1840-46 he served as Dir[ector] of the sugar refinery in Datschitz (Dačice) that was adjacent to a fruit saponeria [soap works; Fruchtsiederei] and chocolate factory that he founded.

1846-49 he was in Vienna as secretary of the chamber of commerce as well, for a short time, as a representative [Handlungsagent] and authorized officer [Prokurist] for a grocery store [Spezereiwarenhandlung].

Translation in progress: In 1849 he came as provisor. Insp. For the State telegraph to Trieste to the invented by him opt. Telegraph system in an experimental line at the ISTR. Build coast. However, this order did not arrive for execution and R. 1853 left the government service. He was initially in Königsfeld (Královo Pole), then in the Royal Hall (Zbraslav), from 1856 in Libeznitz (Líbeznice) in Prague in the Zuckerind. operate and also worked for the United. for beet sugar-Ind. the Austrian empire., at the conclusion he had been involved. He acted in Prague 1855/56 as secretary of Ver. and initiated in 1860 as managing director and secretary whose agency in Vienna, from 1863, after laying the Ver.Sitzes to Vienna, as Gen.Sekretär. Beginning in 1864, red. He also the "Market of the Association for the beet sugar industry in the Empire Austria", the first Fachz. in this area in the Austrian. countries. R. presented already at around 1840 attempts to produce sugar cubes. Having received a five-year privilege to the invention, represent refined cane sugar by machines in cube shape, at 23. 1. 1843, the fabricated in Datschitz sugar cubes came in the same year as a tea-sugar or Wr. Sugar cubes in trade. But Rs name as the inventor of cube sugar was soon forgotten, especially as he relinquished the privilege granted to him the Datschitzer sugar refinery or its owner F. v. Grebner why this was erroneously regarded as the inventor of the sugar cube. Rs rich Publ.Tätigkeit in the field of Zuckerind. was mainly tax and customs polit. Ask. In his "Associations Design for raw sugar factories. , , "He already developed the modern group thoughts. The Neuhrsg. who in his work "The beet sugar-Ind. in Austrian. from the standpoint of the economy and fiscal policy "in 1857, first started mailing list titled" The beet sugar production of Kaiserthumes Austria, together with those of the German Customs Union in 1861 ', 1861, he produced the first the idea of a period. appearing, any changes considered address book you for sugar factories.

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