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![]() | On 6 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Jack Reed (politician). The result of the discussion was not moved. |
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[edit]How could he have lived in Rhode Island his "whole life" and have worked as a lawyer in DC? Did he work in a Rhode Island office of a Washington based firm?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.167.100.82 (talk) 13:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Because Sen. Reed Makes Much of His Airborne/Ranger Training, It Seems Quite Legitimate to Point Out That He Spent the Vietnam War in College
[edit]Senator Reed never fails to mention West Point and his Airborne/Ranger training. However, Sen. Reed did his military service safely in college at West Point and in graduate school. Only when the Vietnam War was over did he even serve in a non-classroom military capacity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.147.246 (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Additional info
[edit]Some things we may wish to link to:
- PROJO: A Humble Path to Power: http://www.projo.com/extra/2008/reed/
<http://www.projo.com/extra/2008/reed/>
- NYT: A Quiet Deal maker Works for Pained Homeowners:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/washington/17reed.html <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/washington/17reed.html>
- FW: Senator From Tiny State is making Big Waves:
http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080519/REG/230 878277/1039/TOC <http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080519/REG/23 0878277/1039/TOC>
- PP: The Quiet Power of Jack Reed:
http://thephoenix.com/Providence/News/66444-Quiet-Power-of-Jack-Reed/ <http://thephoenix.com/Providence/News/66444-Quiet-Power-of-Jack-Reed/>
- WSJ: Jack Reed Gives Obama Cover on Iraq:
http://www.wsj.com/article/SB121667637713571477.html <http://www.wsj.com/article/SB121667637713571477.html>
- PROJO: Reed Excited and He Has a Right to Be:
http://www.projo.com/news/mcharlesbakst/BAKST_COLUMN_29_07-29-08_G3B12HG _v13.3f61676.html <http://www.projo.com/news/mcharlesbakst/BAKST_COLUMN_29_07-29-08_G3B12H G_v13.3f61676.html> - Rjd0060 (talk) 21:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Military question
[edit]He served 20 years active and reserve -- does anyone know if he retired from the Army? I can't imagine that he didn't, but want to be sure. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 13:57, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Requested move 12 June 2017
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: pages moved. Andrewa (talk) 11:30, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
- Jack Reed (politician) → Jack Reed (Rhode Island politician)
- Jack Reed (Mississippi) → Jack Reed (Mississippi politician)
– Incomplete disambiguation. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 03:07, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- Support per nom but, as John Reed (journalist) is not usually referred to as "Jack Reed" in sources, Jack Reed (politician) (i.e. the Rhode Island one), might be the primary topic for the name and thus require no disambiguator (see Jack Reed for list). — AjaxSmack 13:35, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- Support per nom. kennethaw88 • talk 00:59, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
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Requested move 26 April 2018
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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the pages at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 16:45, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
– I just came across this page, and Talk:Jack_Reed_(Rhode_Island_politician)#Requested_move_12_June_2017, and I'm shocked by it. "Incomplete disambiguation" was the reason given for putting two pages on the same level that shouldn't be. Jack Reed of Rhode Island is a U.S. Senator. Jack Reed of Mississippi never held any elected office. As one of the two editors who commented on the June 2017 RM noted, this Jack Reed is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name "Jack Reed". – Muboshgu (talk) 05:04, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose fails the "Jack Reed was" test. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:49, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- @In ictu oculi: See WP:GHITS. Applies to move discussions as well as deletion discussions, as there is no "X was" parameter in our guidelines. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. No clear primary topic here. American politicians are not the be all and end all and do not automatically take precedence over everyone else; there are seven entries on the list. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:46, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Necrothesp: It's the page views that demonstrate that he is the primary topic over the other Jack Reed's. I should have included that in my initial reasoning. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- I would cite WP:RECENTISM. Serving politicians tend to get lots of mentions and views online. But remember that most of us outside the USA have never heard of him. He's only a senator, not a world leader. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:18, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Necrothesp: You or the general person are more likely to know a U.S. federal politician who has served over 20 years with notable accomplishments than a U.S. state level politician who never won elected office, or a rugby union player, or a baseball player, or the journalist (I think). – Muboshgu (talk) 14:27, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- Not really. Most of us (even in the US) have probably never heard of any of them. Hence the reason for it best staying as a dab page. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Necrothesp: You or the general person are more likely to know a U.S. federal politician who has served over 20 years with notable accomplishments than a U.S. state level politician who never won elected office, or a rugby union player, or a baseball player, or the journalist (I think). – Muboshgu (talk) 14:27, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- I would cite WP:RECENTISM. Serving politicians tend to get lots of mentions and views online. But remember that most of us outside the USA have never heard of him. He's only a senator, not a world leader. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:18, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Necrothesp: It's the page views that demonstrate that he is the primary topic over the other Jack Reed's. I should have included that in my initial reasoning. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
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Hazardous, squalid housing of American military families
[edit]An anonymous editor user:74.102.230.90 keeps inserting a negative claim against Reed that with regards to the hazardous, squalid housing of American military families Sen. Reed "faced scrutiny from Reuters investigative journalists after his relationship to John Picerne was revealed. Picerne is the CEO of real estate development company Corvias, which is accused by members of the Senate Armed Services Committee with ignoring the warning signs of lead poisoning, mold, and vermin infestations in the privatized military housing that it built and managed". He provides a link to a series of articles by Reuters with regards to this housing problem but nowhere within any of the articles contained in the link his claim against Reed is vindicated. On the contrary, nowehere Reed is criticized or personally linked to Picerne, and he is even quoted as being appaled by the problem. Please provide an actual valid source for this claim or stop inserting it. -- fdewaele, 28 August 2019, 14:52 CET.
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Requested move 6 October 2023
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 22:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island politician) → Jack Reed (politician) – Per WP:MISPLACED. Also could see an argument for treating the senator as the WP:PTOPIC given pageviews [[1]] estar8806 (talk) ★ 00:50, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per WP:PRIMARYPDAB. With only 79% of all-time pageviews, not sure about full primary topic-ness, also when compared to the long-term significance and usage of communist John Reed. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 03:01, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Hameltion Those were my thoughts as well. My only question was if the John Reed was ever known as "Jack" (in RS)? Looks like most of the sources about him refer to him as John. Though you do make a good point in that I guess the pageviews weren't as strong as I had thought. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:31, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- "Jack" appears to be well-attested, as in this 2019 biography. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 04:03, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Hameltion Those were my thoughts as well. My only question was if the John Reed was ever known as "Jack" (in RS)? Looks like most of the sources about him refer to him as John. Though you do make a good point in that I guess the pageviews weren't as strong as I had thought. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:31, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. In 2017, there was a sparse RM that ended with this page being moved away from "(politician)" to "(Rhode Island politician)", but the redirect was just never pointed away from this article. I'm not sure I think this is much of a WP:MALPLACED case because of that. While I don't really object to this page being moved if the redirect will stay what it is, I think there is probably a stronger argument for plain "Jack Reed". Nohomersryan (talk) 20:54, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Jack Reed (politician) is incomplete disambiguation due to the presence of an entry for Jack Reed (Mississippi politician). Would not oppose, however, a potential move of Jack Reed (Rhode Island politician) → Jack Reed paired with Jack Reed → Jack Reed (disambiguation). —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 08:29, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Incomplete disambiguation with Jack Reed (Mississippi politician). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:21, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:NOPRIMARY and WP:PDAB. Retarget Jack Reed (politician) to the dabpage; this should have been done in 2017 when the first RM was closed. 162 etc. (talk) 15:23, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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