Talk:Ivan Vasilievich: Back to the Future

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Title

The current title of the page, Ivan Vasilievich: Back to the Future, has nothing to do with the actual title, Ivan Vasilievich Changes his Profession. There is literally no reason for the article to be named the way it is now. Please edit out this falsity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.158.196.42 (talk) 17:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The title Ivan Vasilievich: Back to the Future is from the Ruscico DVD release. It appears to be a hoaky attempt to compare the film to Back to the Future. The Russian title means "Ivan Vasilievich Switches Occupation". Chappell (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:10, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming to "Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession"

Requested move

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The result of the move request was not done. Skomorokh, barbarian 18:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Vasilievich: Back to the Future → Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession — The current "Back to the Future" title has no basis in the actual film's title. The official imdb listing uses a transliteration of the original Soviet title. The proposed new name is the translation of the original title. "Back to the Future" apparently comes from a title that was used in the U.S. for VHS sales of the movie. Why this title was chosen is unknown. I have tried moving the article, but the proposed new name already exists and redirects to the current title. I believe it would be more correct to redirect to the original title from the "Back to the Future" made up title. Penthrift (talk) 11:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Support. KNewman (talk) 18:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Unsure, leaning to oppose. The Allmovie link has an image of the English edition DVD cover, which uses "Back to the Future". If that's indeed the title the movie was distributed under, the article should be kept where it is. On the other hand, I don't know whether "Changes His Profession" had ever been used in the English editions, so I can't form an educated opinion.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:56, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
Oppose - disregarding for a moment the current "Back to the Future" name, the proposed target, "Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession" appears to be wrong, or at least not the more common translation. Google turns up 14,400 results for "Ivan Vasilievich Changes Occupation", and only 360 for "Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession" (42,400 for "Ivan Vasilievich: Back to the Future", the current title). Yahoo and Bing produce roughly comparable results. -kotra (talk) 23:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Is "Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession" just your literal translation of the title? Recury (talk) 16:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Irrelevant sections? / Wikipedia convention

Large parts of the sections headed "Trivia" and "Deviations from the original play" are unnecessary, or at least do not deserve as much space as they have gotten in an article of this size. I'm not opposed to keeping the sections, but if we choose to do so, I believe we should expand on the more relevant sections such as Plot, and modify these fluffier sections to bring them into line with the general Wikipedia convention for movies, such as having sections on production and reception. We could, for example, expand the "Locations" section into a section on the whole production, and incorporate into it some information from the "Deviations" section regarding the history of the Bulgakov play. I'd like to hear other opinions, though, in case this idea is considered unnecessary.

Zacherymoe (talk) 14:13, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed rename

Hi! The current title surprised me when I went looking for the English Wikipedia article on this film, as the actual title, "Иван Васильевич меняет профессию", is obviously not "Back to the Future". It appears that the only source for "Back to the Future" is this, which is neither a reliable source or particularly useful for titling this article. I'm proposing an alternative of "Ivan Vasilievich Changes Profession", though "Ivan Vasilievich Changes Occupation" would also be accurate. Best, Vermont (talk) 16:28, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]