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Test series

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Is test series in this tour can be considered as part of Border-Gavaskar trophy? Thanks, Sagavaj (talk) 21:53, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Archie Schiller

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I have no idea why this trivial mascot infomation keeps getting re-added. The AfD was a clear delete. Not delete and merge the info here. Apart from being trivial, there are WP:BLP issues here too. If someone can give a sound, policy based reason to add this, please do so. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:42, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Archie is not a mascot, however a player who was genuinely part of Australia’s Squad. He was officially named in the squad release and added for this Test match. As I have said in my edit explanation: “A player officially added to the squad is clearly not trivial, how is this any different to the addition of Labuschagne, or the addition of Agarwal to India’s side. Information is correctly sourced as an official player added to Australia’s squad. If, for example, a player such as James Pattinson was officially added for the Third Test, yet did not play, we would include this information here. The same is as such. This is not trivial as Archie was an offical squad member added in the offical CA release.” Aussiespinnersfanpage (talk) 13:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He was not part of the squad at all. What was his cap number? And James Pattinson is a fully-contracted player. There's a big difference. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked the Cricket Project for further input. So should we:
  1. Not include this at all
  2. Mention it under the squad details and include him in the squad list
  3. Only mention it under the squad details

Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mention it in prose about the specific match. It's not anything to do with squad details at all in my view. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If Schiller was actually part of the Australia squad, why wasn't he listed as having been dropped for the Fourth Test (see here)? "Including" him for the Boxing Day Test was a cute gesture by Cricket Australia, but nothing more. Far be it from me to say that to the poor little boy's face, but in the cold light of day, it was nothing more than tokenistic. Even in the official squad announcement for the Third Test, he isn't mentioned until the bottom of the page and even then there's a link to let people know it's a special case. – PeeJay 16:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'm trying not to be harsh about this, but to me it's the same as saying "Nasser is in the middle with the two captains ready for the toss, and he's got Tiny Tim with the coin..." Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It was widely reported, so would pass WP:V. WP:BLP1E, which was a reason given by many votes, does not say that all mention of the person should be expunged, and a few people did say to mention on this article. It is (though only very marginally) OR to say that Archie was not a real member of the squad, but I think we can all say that there was absolutely 0 chance that he would have stepped in had one of the Aus team done a McGrath during the warm up. Spike 'em (talk) 19:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's OR at all. If you look at the top of this page, which I linked above, you'll see he's not listed in the Australia XI, only in the squad list at the bottom. I think we have to operate on the same principles as the readers of the article, who are probably smart enough to realise that a gravely ill seven-year-old wasn't a serious inclusion in the playing squad. – PeeJay 20:16, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lugnuts: Someone doesn’t need to have a cap number to be part of the squad. He simply didn’t play, however was part of the squad, as similar to Hardik Pandya for India. It is different to other scenarios, such as the TinyTim toss one, as Archie was actually included in the official 14-man-squad. It seems that some people are taking the “squad” to be the XI, not the 14-man player selection. I think that needs to be clarified. He wasn’t dropped because the announcement only stated that he was to be included for this Test only. See releases:

Quote: “Archie’s inclusion in an extended Test squad was made public earlier this month and he learned the news via a phone call from coach Justin Langer, while the national team was in the UAE for their recent series against Pakistan.” [1]

Quote: “Aware that inclusion in the squad is no guarantee of a berth in the final line-up, Archie has heeded Langer's earlier advice to keep up his practice regime so that he's in prime form come match morning in Melbourne, four days after Archie's seventh birthday.” [2]

Aussiespinnersfanpage (talk) 22:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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