Talk:Ice Age: The Meltdown/Archive 1

Archive 1

Shouldn't have survived in ice at all- something for "Inaccuracies"

Is it worth noting that neither Placodus or Metriorynchus would have survived in a glacier? During their time periods (Metriorhychus were from the Late Jurassic period, and Placodus was from the Triassic), the world's temperature was still too high for ice to form anywhere, ergo they could not have survived through the millions of years of being frozen, because they would never have been frozen at all. They would have been extinct long before the world cooled down that much. I can put these there if anyone wants, but I'd just like the green light for that. Or, someone else could. Either way, I think it's at least worth making note of, reguardless of how important it is.

I also think it's worth noting that Placodus solely ate bivalves.

Good ideas. Feel free to add them. Dora Nichov 14:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps a cold storm froze the two? KnowledgeLord 06:06, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

The mesozoic had cold storms!? Dora Nichov 06:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't being frozen in a block of ice have killed creatures of this description? and wouldn't reptilian creatures, unless somehow warm-blooded, have required a heat source greater than was available in the ice ages? Hey, my warranty didn't run out after all! 00:43, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Even warm-blooded animals wouldn't have a chance. But Scrat got frozen in the first movie, but then again, he's virtually invincible. Dora Nichov 11:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I think we can chalk some things down to the "it's just a cartoon thing," seeing as how surviving in a block of ice has always been a commonly-used motif in cartoons ("motif?"). I re-worded the thing on cold-bloodedness being another factor, but removed the reference to coelacanths. It's plain to see that (in the movie's own little universe) they survived through the ages by being frozen, not by the survival of their species, a la the Coelacanth, or Nessie, if you believe in that sort of thing.

Requested move

Ice Age 2: The Meltdown → Ice Age: The Meltdown – Requested per requests on discussion page. Movie no longer contains a number 2 in the title.

Discussion

• Support - Alex 06:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
• Support - It is the film's new title so to have the "2" is incorrect. There really shouldnt even be a debate about this, just change it! - Raemie 13:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

This Sloth Thing

1. 61-something: Stop putting caps in edit descs. It's distracting.
2. KnowledgeLord: What fans speculate is irrelevant. Either describe the sloths or leave the sentence out.67.187.113.46 08:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

But it's been stated what fans have speculated in the Harry Potter section Wikipedia, so I fail to see why I can't include it. I am KnowledgeLord.

There seems to be an arguement about sloths. Can someone please tell me about it?211.72.108.18 12:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Crash and Eddie

Are Crash and Eddie possums (from Australia) or opossums (from North and South America)? Andjam 11:58, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Is it just me or when manny told sid that 'there's a stump there' and sid replying 'not any more'. I'm pretty darn sure that was a sexual reference to sid's 'reproductive organs'. I was shocked that none of the other adults in the cinema seemed to get it, was it so obscure that even the 'censors' for Australian cinema didn't pick it up???

Crash and Eddie are opossums211.72.108.19 12:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Please remove inaccuracies section

Ok, so some folks want to show off how knowledgeable they are and they write all this nonsensical scientific stuff. This is a cartoon, not a documentary, in case you haven't noticed. There is even someone saying that such and such animal didn't live in North America: who said the movie is set in North America? I am not even sure if there was such thing as "North America" at that time. Oh, and in case you missed it: animals don't talk. Is there also such a stupid section for The Lion King, Cinderella, etc? F15x28 20:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

A little research will show that the North American continent did exist. The movie was most likely set in North America, as the glacial dam bursting to flood the valley was very close to the events of the Missoula Flood at the end of the Pleistocene Ice Age.

Oh, come now, this is important! If there is no "inaccuracies" section, then how will the people who visit here know what is true and not? Who say that it is only for users to show their knowledge? I say leave it on!--KnowledgeLord 05:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, yeah ok. I understand what you're saying, but it's kinda strange to be that rigurous about fiction+cartoon. F15x28 04:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I disagree about removing the inaccuracies section too! Dora Nichov 23:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Anyways, we don't want people to take the movie too literally! Dora Nichov 02:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

"When Scrat reaches the squirrel heaven, we hear the theme from the Coen Bros. movie The Hudsucker Proxy (written by Carter Burwell). This is actually credited as Adagio by Alex North from the movie Spartacus on the film's soundtrack." - this is incorrect, the song in the scene is Adagio from Spartacus, a russian ballet by Aram Khachaturian in 1954. NOT from the movie Spartacus by Alex North. The theme from The Hudsucker Proxy IS Adagio from Spartacus by Khachaturian. This part should be removed because it is inaccurate.Natushabby

Cretaceous

I think the purple crocodile thing is a Metriorhynchus, it had claws at its front feet, its back feet were flippers, and he had a tail fin, so its certainly no Deinosuchus

Not sure now that you mention it...211.72.108.18 12:25, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I believe that Cretaceous is no Deinosuchus, i swear it had a tail fin and flippers as back feet. He looks more like a Metriorhynchus to me.

Speaking of those...things, how do we know thier names? Crocker 08:22, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Cretaceous doesn't even have back legs! Dora Nichov 14:37, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

He does; they are just atrophied, and shown in the form of small, vestigal paddles. KnowledgeLord 06:07, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I guess I didn't see clearly! Dora Nichov 06:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Move Back to Previous Title

The title of this film is Ice Age: The Meltdown. Why was this page moved last week to Ice Age 2: The Meltdown? That is not its title. I feel that this article should be moved back to its original name. Donaldd23 02:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah! Ice Age: The Meltdown is back! Not IA2: TM! It's B.A.C.K in the hisshouse!

plot question

Haven't you noticed if you've ever seen the movie, that the plot on getting away from a wall of breaking glaciers and water is a little bit too similar to the events that have happened during the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, especially with Katrina?Falconleaf 18:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

True, true, but should it be included? --KnowledgeLord 22:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Certain fate

"While all this happens, the other animals are taken on a death ride on the "boat" as it floats about, and almost are headed to a certain fate."

This sentence doesn't make sense.

1. Fate, by its very nature, is certain.
2. If they're almost headed to this fate, it can't be that certain.
3. What fate? Death? Are they dead?

I haven't seen this film, so I don't know which animals these are, whether they're dead or what. Can someone please rewrite this with more clarity and less hyperbole?

To tell the truth, even though I've seen this, I don't understand that either... Dora Nichov 13:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

It's been fixed.--KnowledgeLord 07:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

New article

I didn't know where else to post this, so here goes:

I am against merging the characters in the film into this page and as such, I suggest that they be given a page dedicated to the characters. We could call it 'List of Characters in the "Ice Age" films' --KnowledgeLord 07:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Sure. Dora Nichov 09:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Piracy

For those who need confirmation, here it is, the torrent for the bl-ray disc pirated film,download and see for yourself.[1] 70.50.63.24 18:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Piracy

sorry about my previous post, but the torrent seems to be on a private tracker so clicking on my link will give you a restricted torrent.But if your a member of Bit-dvd.com then download the torrent from there for confirmation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.50.63.24 (talk) 20:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

The Anteater and other things

You may say that the anteater is only an anteater, but I highly doubt it. After all, when have we seen an anteater with a trunk and a mouth, as well as a pair of long ears? Could it be the Plesiorycteropus? We may never know because there are no pictures available of it anywhere, but it could be, for it resembles an anteater and an aardvark in one sweep. I still think that it is, because it seems to be very close in appearance to aardvarks, and for that matter, the directors of this movie and its predecessor are not exact in the name of the animals shown in the movie. "Starts"? "Freaky mammals"? "Rhinos"? "Bears"? Am I the only one who notices this; I feel like I'm taking CRAZY PILLS!! The film-makers will only describe the animal's name as being close to what it looks like, brontotheres, for example, is too hard a name for kids to say normally, so they abbreviated the name to "rhino". We must act on this! --KnowledgeLord 22:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm with you! Stupid stuff... freaky mammals... sh**h... Dora Nichov 09:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Very well, then, if that be the case, then I must rephrase "anteater" to "aardvark". It is the only way.

--KnowledgeLord 06:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Beaver

I think that perhaps the "palaeocastor" shown in this film was not a palaeocastor at all, owing to the fact that despite written records telling me that the palaeocastor had a small horn atop its head like the animal shown in the film, it was smaller and not at all like an aquatic beaver, perhaps it was a regular beaver. I know that beavers don't have horns, but what other explanation can you offer? And what about the "elks" shown in the film? When have you ever seen an elk with a horn on his or her nose?

But for now, I've got a possible solution. What I plan to do is this: I have recently checked out a book from my school's library on extinct mammals, and plot to research at least one of these curiosities! --KnowledgeLord 17:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Good idea!! Dora Nichov 10:22, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Goofs?

"The song "Food Glorious Food" was earlier created for the musical "Oliver!" and was spoofed to match the movie." - call me stupid, but how is this a goof? Sidasta 16:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Its not a goof, i mean if it was made to match the movie then whats goofie about it? Also it says: Sid gave the name of his camp Campo del Sid, which supposedly is translated as Camp of Sid, however it would actually be "Field of Sid". The correct Spanish for Camp of Sid is "Campamento de Sid". Well i dont know about spanish but in Italian 'Campo del Sid' translates to 'Camp of the Sid'. How do we know its ment to be spanish, it could be italian, no? 88.39.113.35 07:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, I've removed both of the above. Some of the other goofs (like the fact Scrat was frozen until 20,000 years later) I wouldn't class as goofs, otherwise we'd be saying that the whole of the short movie, "No Time for Nuts" was a goof as well. But I'll leave that for someone else to decide. Sidasta 10:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandal

There seems to be some misinformed vandal slithering around here, changing species' names to false ones and even going so far as to delete one once!

He must be stopped. --KnowledgeLord 03:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Inaccuracy in the Inaccuracies

Ice melts from the outside, not from the inside, but if the ice melted from the outside the animals might have had more time to escape.

This is not true in this context. If you look for instance at the article about the Missoula Floods you will see that the way the ice is melting in the movie is actually rather correctly done. Hadoriel 18:00, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Horton Hears a Who? Inaccuracy

Just curious as to why it says that the date on the movie is 2005, and the page clearly says 2008 (it has not been released yet). There is nothing on the page to indicate that it should say 2005. Should it be changed? WiiAlbanyGirl (talk) 06:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

A General Note

Writing 'x may be a reference to y' is speculation and not allowed. Lots42 (talk) 13:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The Sea Reptiles

The two sea creatures are named, though it is never stated in the films, only the books. And the purple one (Cretaceous) is likely an icthyosaur. He must be, because he's got a sail on his back and a long pointed snout. KnowledgeLord 04:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Umm...Ichthyosaurus doesn't have a sail. And he has claws. His snout is actually more crocodile-like. I think he's a Metriorhynchus. (Despite what the essential guide says). Also, how 'bout Maelstrom. The article currently says he's a Placodus.61.230.74.140 11:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

He's got to be a member of the Icthyosaur group. Mind you, I won't say that he is an Icthyosaurus, because he is too small to be one. I suggest a smaller species. And at any rate, a Metriorhynchus hasn't got a sail, either! With that, I must say, the Metriorhynchus hasn't got an upturned tail, but rather a tail much more like that of a dolphin. --KnowledgeLord 04:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

When the article called Maelstrom a Dunkleosteus, I really doubted that he was one. Also, I agree that Cretaceous is either Metriorhynchus or Geosaurus. If he were an ichthyosaur, then he would of resembeled a dolphin. Giant Blue Anteater 17:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, there really is no sea reptile that looks like Maelstrom. I definately agree with what you said about Cretaceous, he must be some kind of crocodillian or crocodillian-like creature. Still, some guy keeps insisting he's an ichthyosaur.61.230.72.211 11:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

It is possible, however unlikely, that Cretaceous is indeed a modified icthosaur, because he's got the dorsal fin out of shape and he shares traits with crocodiles. Think on it for a second. If the film-makers modified Sid to have a long neck, unlike true ground sloths, then they must have modified Cretaceous to simply be an amalgam of sea creatures!--KnowledgeLord 04:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

You don't know you're prehistoric sea reptiles well. Metriorhynchus had an upturned tail, not one like a dolphin. Sure, Metriorhynchus doesn't have a sail, but like you said, he shares traits with crocodiles, and Metriorhynchus is a crocodillian. Perhaps he's an ichthyosaur, but he's got more Metriorhynchus features to me! 61.230.79.242 00:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

First off, learn to use punctuation correctly (not "you're prehistoric sea reptiles-"), secondly I do know my prehistory quite well, thirdly, I was under the impression that Metriorhynchus has got the tail of a dolphin because of the quality of the picture where I saw it, and fourth, merely because he looks like a Metriorhynchus, does not make him one; he is lacking in the armored skin and is too rounded to be what you say that he is. I will take the official guide's word over a crazed and likely incorrect fan's word any day.--KnowledgeLord 05:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

So...are you convinced Cretaceous is a crocodilian? 61.230.78.158 23:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I am, indeed. --KnowledgeLord 05:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, the "your". I typed it wrong, he he. I'll take your word for knowing your prehistoric creatures. Perhaps your picture was old and out-dated. I know Metriorhynchus doesn't have armor and a sail fin, but at least he's a crocodilian, and he looks more like a Metriorhynchus than an ichthyosaur. Of course looking like something doesn't mean you are something, but what I mean is he's more like a sea croc (typing Metriorhynchus over and over is tiring) than an ichthyosaur. Like I said, he is at least a crocodilian. Anyways, this film does have inaccuracies, it's not a documentary, you know. Say... what did the guide call Maelstrom...? 61.230.78.158 00:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

A pliosaur. Can you believe anything as crazy as that? And not to start further argument but I suggest that the mini-sloths are indeed traditional three-toed sloths. There certainly aren't any species, living or dead, quite like them!--KnowledgeLord 07:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

A WHAT!!!!. Pliosaur... total joke. LOL. Wow, I wonder what they were thinking! The mini sloths... Yes, it is true they're not like any sloths. Too small for ground sloths, yet not arboreal or slow enough to be tree sloths... 61.230.78.158 10:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I have added {{Fact}} tags to Cretaceous and Maelstrom. Giant Blue Anteater 02:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Umm...why? 61.230.90.241 06:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Because... You know, "How do you know that he is a Placodus/Metriorynchus? Anyway, is the official guide in a form of a book or website? Giant Blue Anteater 05:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

A book. Lots of these films have an official guide, published by DK. Eg: Finding Nemo, Shrek, Shark Tale, The Wild, The Incredibles, etc. Hmmm... I seriously think Cretaceous is a Metriorhynchus, or at least some kind of sea croc. I'm having doubts 'bout Maelstrom being a Placodus, but there really isn't anything that looks like him anyway... PS: Yahoo! I've gotten a user name! Feel free to pass by my talk page anytime! Or you can glance at my personal article, though you'd probably not be intersted... Dora Nichov 14:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

We should go by what the official guide says. For the mini sloths, I think that they're made up. Giant Blue Anteater 02:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

But I have this to say: during my travels to Peru this summer, I saw a chart in a museum which suggests relations betwixt modern sloths and prehistoric ones. Perhaps these ¨mini-sloths¨are one of those animals! --KnowledgeLord 16:02, 2 August 2006

Hmmm... Sounds good to me. Dora Nichov 23:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Again, it's possible that the film makers called them icthyosaurus and pliosaur is because, as I said earlier, they figure that kids are so dumb that they can't squeeze but one or two more puffs to utter a single syllable, so they give them these false names. --KnowledgeLord 07:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

LOL. Dora Nichov 08:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think Cretaceous is an ichtyosaur OR a Metriorhynchus, I think of him more as a mosasaur or possibly a Geosaurus. Also, I think Maelstrom might be a Rhomaleosaurus. 68.166.188.30 (talk) 01:18, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

You think so? They could be, but the sources dictate otherwise. And as much as it pains me to say it, we have to go with whatever the sources say.--KnowledgeLord (talk) 00:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Soundtrack

The song is "Food, Glorious Food", not "Food Glorious Food". Add the comma. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathrec (talk • contribs) 05:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Video game voices

Tara Strong, Jess Harnell and Grey DeLisle joined the cast, right?? 128.135.73.108 (talk) 17:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Edit request from Zelytic, 18 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Please update the position in the list of highest-grossing films, in the Box Office section, from thirty-second to forty-first as it is no longer up to date. The date will also need to be changed accordingly. [2]

Zelytic (talk) 04:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

 Done Thank you. —Mike Allen 04:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Info box

As this is a locked article, I am unable to add Queen Latifah's box at the bottom that has the overview of her work. Please add it for me.--67.84.73.254 (talk) 05:01, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Actor templates are against guidelines: MOS:FILM#Navigation.--Carniolus (talk) 20:31, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2014

79.175.66.116 (talk) 23:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Note: No request was made. --ElHef (Meep?) 02:41, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2016

Please add that an additional sequel, Ice Age: Collision Course, will be coming to theaters in July 2016.

71.243.236.155 (talk) 18:29, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Not done: This is the second instalment and the next sequel to be released is the fifth instalment. I don't think it's worth adding this to the article. st170e^talk 18:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Zeměpis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurastancer (talk • contribs) 10:50, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Language in movie

I was watching this movie with my 3 year old and they said a**(twice in one sentence) and Damn. Is this movie seriously family friendly? I think we need to add why its PG. Parents would be interested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.53.21 (talk) 20:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC) My friend, you have a highly corrupted brain. The word a** actually stands for the donkey like animal the "Ass" which was an evolving animal that lived in the time. Not the word you are talking of here. And do your children already know these words? No, by all means they shouldn't, until at least they are 9 years old. The reason they put PG rated guided was that were unwanted " Save the species references". I hope these point fed your doubts.

It should be PG, because it doesn't say bad language Max.vado (talk) 00:50, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2018

I want to edit the movies's page.

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 Jul 2020

Maelstrom is not a Pliosauroidea -- he is a pliosauroid, a member of the Pliosauroidea.

(Why is this protected, anyway?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.255.171.122 (talk) 19:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

typo in first paragraph

"Installment" has two Ls Citizenkeen (talk) 20:38, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

I noticed this too, but I cannot edit the error it seems. Evandafoxxo (talk) 02:46, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done Not actually a typo, just British spelling in this article that uses American English. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

There are two links need to be filling

Debi Derryberry as Gastornis Mom Clea Lewis as Female Mini Sloth / Dung Beetle Mom 2601:147:4300:47C0:7C53:389:69E1:F2F0 (talk) 20:03, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Don't need to link common animal names. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2023

fix casting mistakes ThatOneGuy OX (talk) 16:59, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

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