Talk:I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday
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[edit]As downloads as well as physicaly sales became eligible for the weekly Top 75 as from January 2007, and with the help of additional exposure thanks to an Argos television advertisement later in the year using an excerpt of the song for a soundtrack, it was one of several Christmas oldies to chart again in November and December 2007~ the above sentence may be considerd a run on sentence and in any case is hard to understand
"I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday" - Weeks on chart
[edit]The original version (credited to Wizzard featuring vocal backing by The Suedettes plus The Stockland Green Bilateral School First Year Choir with additional noises by Miss Snob and Class 3C' spent 9 wks in the charts from 08.12.1973.
Then the mastertapes were lost in the late 1970s and so the record had to be re-recorded again with children from Kempsey Primary School pretending to be the kids from the 1973 school (the record was actually more like a Roy Wood solo record with Wood playing every instrument) [1]
That recording was released in 1981 and got to No. 23 in 1984 on the Top 100 chart for 8 weeks. However it is listed twice as there was an additional extended 12-inch version issued in 1984, so I am guessing it got listed twice by the OCC as they were now using the slightly different catalogue number from that additional release from that point (and I am not going to spend the rest of the day getting out the old Guinness Book of British Hit Singles to find that information).
Also on the chart of 02 December 1984 - 08 December 1984 "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday" is new at number 86 credited to ROY WOOD AND WIZZARD[2] but doesn't state which label its on. It could be an Old Gold release but more likely it's the one with the 'Dennis the Menace' single cover (Harvest Records – HAR 5173)[3][4] as that only has Roy Wood's name on the front.
Then on the chart of 09 December 1984 - 15 December 1984, "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday" is new at number 50 credited to WIZZARD with the 'Dennis the Menace' gone from the chart. As Gallup would have been using EPOS at that time, it could be that they were already combining records...with a few true copies hanging about from the 1970s getting a couple of sales but most being the fake 1980s recording with the same cat. no.
Then in the internet-era (on 08.12.2007) "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday" [5] charted for the first time as a download, which will be the 1980s recording as EMI didn't have the 1970s mastertapes in the archive when they put it out on iTunes and if they did all versions would no doubt be combined in 2020 like LEVITATING by DUA LIPA (on the chart of 11 December 2020 - 17 December 2020 it was one place below "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday" at number 20) which gets a lot of points put into its sales total thanks to the version with DaBaby (uncredited in the UK).[6] The 2007 entry has 55 weeks on the Top 75 as of 11 December 2020 - 17 December 2020, and 60 weeks in the Top 100.[7]
The Official Charts Company have "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday" as four different hits when it should only be two (1973 and the 1981-2020 version) if by rules set out in the The Guinness Book of British Hit Singles state that a re-recording is only a new hit with a different vocal track mean that (excluding the non-hit number 86 track for a moment) "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday" gets 9 weeks in the chart for 1973 and 68 weeks for the 1981 version still charting in 2020. However that rises to 80 weeks in the top 100 since the 1970s by using 2020's chart combining methodology whereby you have to ask the OCC to list it separately like the two versions of "Lay Me Down" by Sam Smith and maybe "Holy" by Justin Bieber in a few days when the NHS version comes out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.170.74 (talk) 13:24, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25402438
- ^ https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19841202/7501/
- ^ http://www.45cat.com/record/har5173
- ^ https://www.discogs.com/Wizzard-I-Wish-It-Could-Be-Christmas-Every-Day/release/12251098
- ^ https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/10742/wizzard/
- ^ https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/
- ^ https://acharts.co/uk_singles_top_75
Everyday or Every Day?
[edit]Almost all sources use the word "everyday", one word, in the title. Ungrammatical, but that's show business. The cover illustrated seems to spell the title wrongly, with an added space ("Every Day"). This led @Nanoshed: to change the title in the lead with edit summary "Fixed misspelling of "Every Day". The two words combined form an adjective with a different meaning. The actual song title correctly contains a space, as illustrated in the image of the single's cover
", and an editor to change it in an article.
I rarely edit in the area of songs and albums so don't know the conventions about choice of illustration, but I notice that Discogs has a record label showing the single word.
Could someone either find and upload an album cover which shows the correct spelling, or add the record label, so that the lead image agrees with the article title as to the spelling of the title of the song? PamD 07:38, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Did it even have a dedicated cover? These were not nearly as common in the 1970s as they became in the 1980s. I have several Move/ELO/Wizzard singles from the early 1970s, and they are all in either a plain white sleeve, plain black sleeve or the green-and-yellow Harvest sleeve, all with a hole so that the label can be seen. So, what we should really be using will be the title as stated on the label ("Everyday"), as per that Discogs link. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:53, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Here some online variants - [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. All these show 'Everyday' as one word, but I am certain other examples will split the word up. If that helps at all !? (I originally posted this at Talk:Wizzard). Thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Derek R Bullamore What would be great would be to have an image which could legitimately be uploaded and used as the lead image of the article, which had the correct ("everyday") title! I don't know about album covers or record labels and copyright, not my usual territory. PamD 17:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I see your point. I am not going to be much use in this regard because; Copyright - I got my fingers burned over a decade ago, learned a hard lesson and have tried to avoid anything even approaching that subject, like the plague. Uploading images - Despite being around Wikipedia for 18+ years, this is something I seriously looked at once and have not been back since. It appears that cases such as "I'll Go Where Your Music Takes Me" can use a record sleeve or label under 'free use' - whatever that is ! Despite 'composing' the bulk of that article, the image stuff I left to others. My 'go to man' is taking something of a Sabbatical from Wikipedia at present, so I can not easily ask him. There must be plenty of editors with experience in these matters, but I can not recommend anyone at this time. Regards. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are plenty of images at c:Category:Vinyl singles and c:Category:Vinyl records of the United Kingdom, you should be OK if you do the same thing. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I see your point. I am not going to be much use in this regard because; Copyright - I got my fingers burned over a decade ago, learned a hard lesson and have tried to avoid anything even approaching that subject, like the plague. Uploading images - Despite being around Wikipedia for 18+ years, this is something I seriously looked at once and have not been back since. It appears that cases such as "I'll Go Where Your Music Takes Me" can use a record sleeve or label under 'free use' - whatever that is ! Despite 'composing' the bulk of that article, the image stuff I left to others. My 'go to man' is taking something of a Sabbatical from Wikipedia at present, so I can not easily ask him. There must be plenty of editors with experience in these matters, but I can not recommend anyone at this time. Regards. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Derek R Bullamore What would be great would be to have an image which could legitimately be uploaded and used as the lead image of the article, which had the correct ("everyday") title! I don't know about album covers or record labels and copyright, not my usual territory. PamD 17:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Here some online variants - [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. All these show 'Everyday' as one word, but I am certain other examples will split the word up. If that helps at all !? (I originally posted this at Talk:Wizzard). Thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)