Talk:Howl

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On 2 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Howl to Howl (disambiguation). The result of the discussion was Not moved.

Moved[edit]

Should this be moved to Howl (disambiguation)? --Gray Porpoise 16:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It has been done. --Gray Porpoise 01:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Missing Howls[edit]

There are several types of howl not listed that should be. For example, the article called "Howl", about the poem by ginsberg, isn't on this list, neither is the obvious literal meaning of the word howl (like the scary sound wolves make at night). If I were more familiar with disambiguation pages I'd fix it myself, unfortunately that's not the case. Yipely 15:28, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's where the word "howl" should be directed to, the sound a wolf makes. That's what I was looking for but instead I got an article about some lame poem. Is there even an article about howling? 141.155.158.205 03:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed this. I put wolf, coyote and dog howling right up at the top of this page. Киан (talk) 03:51, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Howl (poem) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 09:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RM[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Comments largely agree that between Howling and Howl (poem) there is WP:NOPRIMARY (non-admin closure) — HTGS (talk) 01:49, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Howl → Howl (disambiguation) – To prepare for redirecting Howl to Howling, the clear primary topic by educational significance. Nothing else on this page even comes close to the overwhelming, long-term educational significance of the common mammalian behavior. Red Slash 04:43, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Howl (poem) certainly has significance, and there is no primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 05:48, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment See also this RM from last year. 162 etc. (talk) 05:49, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The term howling has little to do with this poem. I doubt that readers looking for this work would ever type howling into the search function. MarnetteD|Talk 11:36, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Howl doesn't seem to indicate that there is a primary topic, as the outgoing traffic seems to be reasonably nicely scattered across many of them, so full disambiguation seems to be appropriate here. Oppose --Joy (talk) 15:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, the poem and the vocalization arguably share co-primary. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:47, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Clear primary redirect, however famous the poem may be. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:52, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per the previous discussion regarding the poem, no clear primary topic so its safest to disambiguate. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:09, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. The title of the poem is a reference to the vocalization of howling. BD2412 T 02:23, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I can see where the supports are coming from: in the English language, there is a clear primary meaning here. However, the topic structure of an encyclopedia only rarely follows the logic of dictionary entries. I even doubt the article Howling is notable: as far as I can see, the main reason why it exists is the fact that several unrelated animal vocalisations can be described by the English word "howl". As for the aspect of a primary topic – usage – the proposed article clearly fails the test, as it gets only 10% of reader usage. – Uanfala (talk) 09:36, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NOTDICT. — AjaxSmack 05:25, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.