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Section sizes

Section size for History of the United States (2008–present) (36 sections)
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Conflicts	15	15,685
War in Afghanistan	14,349	14,349
Iraq War	1,321	1,321
Politics	14	81,914
Great Recession	3,976	3,976
Democratic backsliding	3,025	3,025
Obama administration	16,513	16,513
First Trump administration	32,855	32,855
Biden administration	23,792	23,792
Second Trump administration	1,739	1,739
Societal trends	23	40,447
Religion	2,694	2,694
Technology	20	10,683
Internet and related technologies	4,300	4,300
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Travel and transportation	2,476	2,476
Space exploration	2,531	2,531
Family	1,697	1,697
Recreation and leisure	3,415	3,415
Crime and violence	8,895	21,935
Hate crimes	3,133	3,133
Domestic terrorism	9,907	9,907
Race	510	30,610
"A Post-Racial Nation"	13,457	13,457
African Americans and law enforcement	7,754	7,754
Unite the Right rally	8,889	8,889
Disasters	15	16,198
Natural disasters	10,770	10,770
Other disasters	5,413	5,413
COVID-19 pandemic	21,161	29,560
Impact on economy and society	8,399	8,399
See also	750	750
References	28	28
Further reading	1,702	1,702
External links	755	755
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On 16 June 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to History of the United States from 2008 to present. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Key events to include

I think that the assassination attempt on president Trump is an extremely important event that should be included in the "key events" section

I would also add the presidential debate, as it completely destroyed the mainstream media's perception of Joe Biden and led to a massive loss of confidence in him from the left 2600:4040:444D:FA00:D88:DA7:5323:1B92 (talk) 01:56, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should this article be renamed to "Trump Era"?

Many American politicians and commentators have referred this period as the trump era due to Trump's pre eminence in the birther and then the maga movement. Nohorizonss (talk) 12:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most consider Trump's first term as a transitionary era and a "coalition" between traditional conservatives and populists. A new article should probably be created on Jan 20, 2025. That'll make this article cover in total 17 years. The same amount of time as the 1991-2008 page. Does this seem like a good idea to you? OntologicalTree (talk) 23:07, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's a great idea but we would need a lot of citations for it. Nohorizonss (talk) 08:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"History of the United States (2008–2024)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect History of the United States (2008–2024) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 7 § History of the United States (2008–2024) until a consensus is reached. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:11, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New history article

I'm in favor of splitting this article after Joe Biden's presidency is concluded into a "History of the United States (2024/2025-present)" page. 2008-2025 is going to be 17 years. The same exact length as the 1991-2008 article.

According to The Economist and other sources, there's a consensus among historians Trump's second term heralds a new historic epoch in American history. A new party system has emerged, a political realignment has been nearly completed, and issues from 2008 are now far distant.

Historiography is inherently a fickle subject, but if we're going to split the pages based upon political eras or trends, November 5, 2024 or January 20, 2025 is better than any other potential pick. OntologicalTree (talk) 23:01, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would propose changing the start date of this page to have it begin in 2016 as Trump has dominated the American sociopolitical landscape since that time. The 1991-2008 article could be readjusted to 2001-2016 and the 1980-1991 article be readjusted to 1980-2001. HawkNightingale175 (talk) 17:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's going to be very difficult to determine a split, but one needs to be made. I agree with the above editor that 2016-present makes the most sense, but to just have the preceding article change from 1991-2016 (post-cold war; increasing partisanship; focus on middle east) and then this article be 2016-present (trump era). Yeoutie (talk) 17:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OntologicalTree blocked as a sock

Seew:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KlayCax Doug Weller talk 09:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]