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His family made Nazi propaganda films in Barrandov studio. After the studio was nationalized, he planted a few bombs, killing some stage workers. His uncle escaped to West Germany with the help of the Americans in order to avoid being tried for Nazi profiteering. He later was a CIA stooge who tried to commit small acts of terrorism, this didn't work so he used his failed writing career to write right wing propaganda. This gained him respect and admiration from anti-socialist movements and governments. He later became the last president of Czechoslovakia and the first president of the Czech Republic after a constitutional coup much like the ones which have taken place in Georgia or Ukraine.

I assume this is supposed to be about V. Havel. Wrong place, anonymous. And really bad style.

KapHorn (talk) 01:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strange, I think you are right. --Roomsixhu (talk) 12:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First mention

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Um - does Tacitus' Agricola really mention the Havel? I can't find it anywhere! It might be false. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.206.39.192 (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Claudius Ptolemy, whose Fourth Map of Europe is the best ancient description of the region, does not mention it. Ptolemy describes a source, discharging to the Elbe though being situated much more east. This may be the source of the Spree or one of its tributaries. But he does not tell more details of it.--Ulamm (talk) 11:27, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Structure of the article

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I consider it hard to follow the discrimination of "Course" and "Navigation". Men has begun to control the course of the Havel as early as about 1200 with the construction of mill weirs (which had to be opened from time to time to allow the passage of boats.

I think it would be better to describe the course and its sections in one thread, integrating natural conditions and technical use.--Ulamm (talk) 11:42, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Bridges in History

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Just hid a sentence about there being four important bridges in the history section. For one, as has already been tagged, there is no citation. Then, it's phrased as if there are still only four important bridges. Don't think we see this as a matter of importance these days, at least not with a river like the Havel. And then, Berlin does have a lot of bridges - more than Venice, for instance;) - but those across the Havel, five road, one rail, off the top of my head, are just a very few among them, and who cares about bridges in Berlin in an article about a river? Sort of. Regards, --G-41614 (talk) 15:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]