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First European production

The article has a special heading for "Early international productions" but does not mention the very first one, which was the second production in the world. I tried to add the info, brief and well referenced, but that single sentence was removed entirely as "too detailed". I am reinstating it and suggesting that it can be edited (leaving Dagens Nyheter & the poster source), if needed, but not entirely removed. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:50, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

When you open a discussion on a Talk page per WP:BRD, please do not edit war by reverting over the person who challenged your text, but instead please wait until the discussion finishes before restoring your text. You can put the suggested text on the Talk page if you want people to discuss the details of it. Of course, if no one joins the discussion within a reasonable amount of time (one week?), then you could put it back. Nevertheless, I agree that the information is useful and encyclopedic, and so I left it in the article with minor tweaks. When did the production close? It looks like the information is at the following linke, but I don't think the source (footnote 3 there) is working: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair#Sverige. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:22, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Duration: 134 performances (20 September 1968 – April 1969) as per svWP. You're right, the source needs to be repaired/updated. The theater's history page no longer mentions Hair.
Re: WP:BRD:
  1. It's an essay not a guideline
  2. "Revert an edit if it is not an improvement, and it cannot be immediately fixed by refinement. Consider reverting only when necessary. BRD does not encourage reverting"
  3. "when you have a better understanding of opposing editors' concerns" - like this concern: "this is too detailed, and the article is long enough already." - ?
You and I could probably go on lecturing each other for decimeters (preferably on our user talk, not here). Shall we abstain? We now have a result we're both pleased with. Nuff said? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:55, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Can you find a source for the 134 performances? (Yes, I'll refrain, although I still think it was unnecessarily provocative of you to revert without waiting for discussion.) -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:29, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I found one. (And thanx!) --SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Good, thank you. I filled out the refs. Please take a look at WP:CITE#What information to include. At a minimum, citations should inclulde (to the extent available), the name of the author (last name first), the title of the article or work, url and/or page number, the name of the publisher and the date of publication (better to write out the name of the month to avoid ambiguity). All the best. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

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High School Productions?

"Because of the universality of its pacifist theme, Hair continues to be a popular choice for high-school and university productions."

Is this really true for high-schools? I am surprised that US high-schools would allowed to put on a play involving nudity. That would be very controversial in a British secondary school, but maybe Americans are more liberal. If you click on the reference link given it talks you to a page that repeats the claim. Blaise (talk) 16:11, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

High school productions modify the nude scene. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:57, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

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Claude is a space alien?

Not according to the published script. He claims to be a space alien in one scene, but it's neither taken seriously by the other characters nor is it supported by anything else we know about Claude from the rest of the play. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 05:36, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Removed. -- Ssilvers (talk) 08:36, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

"Miscegenation"? Really?

This article uses the term "miscegenation" as if that term were neutral and commonly used today. It's not. Wikipedia's very entry on the term "miscegenation" explains: "Miscegenation (/mɪˌsɛdʒɪˈneɪʃən/; from the Latin miscere "to mix" + genus "kind") is the mixing of different racial groups through marriage, cohabitation, sexual relations, or procreation.[1] Because of the term's historical use in contexts that typically implied disapproval, more unambiguously neutral terms such as interracial, interethnic, or cross-cultural are more common in contemporary usage." Jk180 (talk) 03:34, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

OK. I've changed it to "interracial attraction". -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:12, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hair Live!, NBC

Feel free to expand the stub for the upcoming broadcast starting from here, if easier than starting from scratch. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:38, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Vocal ranges

Today I deleted the table with vocal ranges. Per WP:MT: "Vocal ranges for musicals articles should generally not be included in character lists unless a consensus of editors working on the article is obtained." I ask that a consensus be obtained before these ranges are entered into the article. Flami72 (talk) 19:42, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I do not believe that listing vocal ranges for this musical would be helpful. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:49, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
OK. Flami72 (talk) 19:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Productions

2011 was part of the 2009 production and is already efficiently described at the end of that section. The 2007/2008 Shakespeare in the Park concerts were part of the 40th anniversary celebration, and I do not believe that they were especially noteworthy, considering the hundreds of professional productions of this musical. This article is long enough without listing every production; we need to exercise editorial judgment to decide what is the most important information to include in our articles. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

I now agree!!Flami72 (talk) 19:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

First non-Shakespeare production

The claim that Hair was Papp's 'first non-Shakespeare production' can't be correct. There was a presentation of Electra in August, 1964 in the Delacorte theater, by the New York Shakespeare festival (per New York Times article). It is identified by the Times writer as 'the first time the festival has departed from Shakespeare'. The 1964 Electra is already incuded in List of Shakespeare in the Park productions at the Delacorte Theater. EdJohnston (talk) 02:11, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:35, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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