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Fushenjan

Hi, There is a discussion going on in the article Fushenjan, the "claimed birthplace" of Bektash. Please check the recent edits of that article. That article has become related to this article. I am not an expert on this matter so I would suggest that the common editors of this article check it out. Best of regards to you all, Ehsanbasafa (talk) 17:16, 5 June 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Ethnic citation overlinks

Is it necessary to have 6 and 8 citations on his turkish and persian ancestry? Danial Bass (talk) 01:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No. It really isn't, and the general quality of many of those citations was extremely poor - either page numbers and no dates or editions, or dates but no page numbers. A Number of the Turk quotes could variously have referred to someone who is ethnically or culturally/linguistically a Turk, making them fairly useless. I've left two references for each - one quote, and one extended tertiary entry apiece. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, seeing that no one will probably be in conflict if the worst citations were deleted, then I can do it if I have time. Or you if you'd like, since it sounds like you've already went through each (or most) of it. Danial Bass (talk) 22:36, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I already sorted through them as I went and placed the excess sources in further reading. Iskandar323 (talk) 05:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

,,He had influence on Turkic nomads in Asia Minor,,

I can only think of Turkish nomads,Kurds and Armenians,Turkic people were and (some people say) are not Turkish due to no mixing happening but because of Turkish Language Association ditching Arabic and Persian due to racism or something. Just my guess. I would edit it to Anatolian nomads. Vofa (talk) 12:45, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that language doesn’t mean ethnicity, or haplogroups. I hold the same view(that Turkish people aren’t Turkic) but will not edit it unless someone comes,to get an assessment. Argue in good faith. Vofa (talk) 12:47, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[4] Alexēs G. K. Savvidēs, Byzantium in the Near East: Its Relations with the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum in Asia Minor, The Armenians of Cilicia and The Mongols, A.D. c. 1192-1237, Kentron Vyzantinōn Ereunōn, 1981, p. 116.

The book citation doesn’t correspond with any info,to my conclusion it’s a fake link,the book is not accessible,book is about Byzantium. Still not sure whether to edit or not,I’ll go for it if nobody replies. Vofa (talk) 12:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]