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Suggestions to make this page more informative

Mention all of the components that make up the gut (small intestine, large intestine, caecum, anus) Include links to all of these which have wikipedia pages. Could also discuss the function of the gut (what it does, how it performs its function). Mention where it's located in the body.
Gut Microbiome: Get down to the microscopic level and talk about the gut microbiome and what types of bacteria are the most prevalent, most harmful, most beneficial. Discuss how there are three main groups of gut microbes in humans
Effects of Microbiome on Body: Discuss what effects the gut microbes have on the body (Those that are symbiotic and how, which cause diseases, which have no effect).
Diet: Talk about how what you eat effects your body and your gut microbiome. What types of foods can cause changes to the normal microflora

Brandel.23 (talk) 01:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)Brandel.23[reply]

Why are the comments on this talk page unsigned and unidentified?

Why are the comments on this talk page unsigned and unidentified? ---Dagme (talk) 02:49, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The original poster above used many level 2 headings for a single message. I've slightly re-factored it into bullet points; it's now more clear. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:53, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Text about animal gut use moved from Digestion

Section about animal gut use has been moved from the digestion page to here. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:14, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 December 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. We have unanimous support for moving this article to Gastrointestinal tract. As noted, as of this date Gastrointestinal tract redirects here, and was previously turned into a dab page by consensus here. As a result, any readers typing in or clicking on "Gastrointestinal tract" are coming here anyway (and to a dab page before that). Knowledgeable editors may need to update links intending Human gastrointestinal tract, but that was already necessitated when "Gastrointestinal tract" no longer pointed to the human article, dissolving that issue.--Cúchullain ^t/c 16:07, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gut (anatomy) → Gastrointestinal tract – This article should be moved to "gastrointestinal tract". This page clearly should act as the page that users go to... as it states in the first sentence, "In zoology, the gut, also known as the alimentary canal or gastrointestinal tract or intestine, is a tube by which bilaterian animals (including humans) transfer food to the digestion organs.

The article Gastrointestinal tract confusingly redirects to Human gastrointestinal tract.

To me this move seems like a clear and straightforward move that resolves a lot of the confusion currently between many of the "gastrointestinal tract" articles. Tom (LT) (talk) 07:23, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This nomination reflects a discussion here: Talk:Gastrointestinal_tract#Proposal. The editors involved in that discussion are RichardWeiss, Wbm1058, BD2412, Plantdrew, and Doc James. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:23, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support There's certainly a mess of incoming links to Gastrointestinal tract, but this article (gut (anatomy)) is the broadest concept for that term, and getting rid of the parenthetical (anatomy) yields a more natural title. Plantdrew (talk) 08:20, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support and substantially expand. bd2412 T 15:47, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - more encyclopedic page name with a redirect. Meatsgains (talk)
Support Sounds good to me. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:29, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. OK, it looks like this is a done deal, but it still doesn't address the WP:SPECIFICLINK guidance that we should be linking directly to the most specific link covering the relevant topic, rather than the broadest concept for the term. This is what I mean by disambiguation, which admittedly may be a broader concept of that than the classical Wikipedia definition. Most of our coverage is human-related topics, so a lot of links, particularly from articles about human gastrointestinal diseases, ailments, complaints, etc. should link directly to [[human gastrointestinal tract|gastrointestinal tract]]. So, I'll work on that for the next 5 days or so before this closes, assuming I'm allowed to have a highly-linked dab page sitting around for a few days, as I think WP:popups will help speed the work, ensuring that only appropriate articles have their links fixed. No one has had any problems with the work I've done so far. Wbm1058 (talk) 23:27, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Does it matter? If a link intends the subtopic, the supertopic isn't wrong, it's merely imprecise. bd2412 T 00:48, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't know how important this is in the scheme of things, but by that logic one could argue that no links to any {{disambiguation}} page matter, because they are all "merely imprecise". Arguably those matter less, because the format of a dab page often makes it easier to find the desired topic. Depending on how broad the broad topic is and how specific the desired topic is, it can potentially take some searching through the high-level article to find the section with a link to the specific topic. Given the outcome of this, I'm finding that we no longer need to disambiguate _everything_, so I'm leaving the links that aren't specifically concerned with humans as is. Wbm1058 (talk) 02:31, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK, I'm taking a break from this. Been juggling several balls, I suppose it's OK – even necessary – to drop some now and then. In hindsight, this was a summary-style fail; the previous article should never been moved in its entirety. It should have kept the broad-level summary, and only moved the excessive detail about humans to a sub-article about humans. So maybe someone can turn this article back into what it should have been all along. Wbm1058 (talk) 03:10, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support we should stop pretending the only things with particular body parts are humans (as seems to be the case with many anatomy page names) -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 11:54, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The terms gastrointestinal tract and alimentary canal

Hi. There is small problem with the lead of this article that I would like your input on: The terms gastrointestinal tract and alimentary canal are not synonyms since the GI-tract technically only stretches from the stomach to the anus while the alimentary canal is from the mouth opening to the anus. But often when people talk about the GI-tract they tend to include structures like mouth, pharynx and esophagus... Any ideas how to correct the lead if needed? Kind regards JakobSteenberg (talk) 23:52, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What I wrote above had a "human anatomy bias" sorry for possible offence to people interested in zoology :D

How does people feel about creating two articles; one for each term and mention the difference in the lead? JakobSteenberg (talk) 23:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly against splitting to have two articles, that will just result in twice the amount of poorly written poorly sourced paras with hatnotes pointing to the same articles :). You make a great point though. To put this in another way, the content will be same. How about something like "The gastrointestinal tract is used in lay terminology to refer to continuous tract between the mouth and anus (the "alimentary tract") but technically refers to just to the tract from the stomach to the intestines". I am very confident we can just portray this on a single page. --Tom (LT) (talk) 09:58, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Human gastrointestinal tract which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:15, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]