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Article expansion on 20 September

In this edit, J29948109 added a substantial amount of text (15k) to the article, expanding the history, but also adding a lot of detail about products. It looks like, on the whole, the edits are beneficial, but there may need to be some editorial pruning done. I'd like to get input from other editors; I'm pinging @Robertsky: because he accepted the draft. —C.Fred (talk) 11:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also potentially relevant: J29948109's only edit was to this article. SPA does not equate to COI, but it could be easy to draw that inference. —C.Fred (talk) 11:21, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

heya, I accepted the draft as it seems notable enough when I reviewed the draft as it was then. I didn't look too deeply into the contribution history of the editor. But yes, feel free to prune the content. – robertsky (talk) 11:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HI Everyone, In have reverted it back to its last stable version. The article was filled will Peacock terms and started looking like PROMOTIONAL one. I am currently working on gathering more reliable sources in order to expand this article. Synchaas (talk) 19:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello to the editorial community governing this page. My name is Jacob P, in my late 20s, based in Singapore and I would like to disclose that I am an individual connected to Group-IB, and have been asked to help maintain a truthful and factual page. I will admit that I am a total newbie when it comes to Wikipedia editing, and while I'm reading the guidelines and researching on my own, I am also willing to learn from the wider editorial community. Please let me know if I might be able to make suggestions for editorial consideration. (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JacobP2710 (talk • contribs) 07:14, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JacobP2710 - You need to propose your edits individually using Template:Edit COI instead of editing the article directly. 94.57.123.177 (talk) 13:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, and thank you for that guidance. Will adhere to that moving forward. JacobP2710 (talk) 01:56, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A proposed change

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Specific text to be added or removed: Remove the word "Russian" from the opening sentence "Group-IB is a Russian cybersecurity company.

Reason for the change: Group-IB is not a Russian cybersecurity company. The following sentence already acknowledges where it was started up (Moscow) and where it is currently based in (Singapore). The company serves a global customer base and they've also got offices in the Netherlands, UAE, Vietnam, Thailand, Uzbekistan and Chile.

References supporting change: https://www.tis.bizfile.gov.sg/ngbtisinternet/faces/oracle/webcenter/portalapp/pages/TransactionMain.jspx?selectedETransId=dirSearch

Above is a link to the website of the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA), the government body and regulator responsible for business registration, financial reporting, public accountants and corporate service providers in Singapore. If you type Group-IB into the search box, you'll see data pertaining to its incorporation in Singapore.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/group-ib-united-states-expansion/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEhda89h-l317qBTk1AfkyVvkJKQW6ot8RxiG4MrOvZBG0UW2AIZjw2qWqPGrbEm3IWl7U1jqtAUNWFnMZkmJLSBiujdNzkpGUeINsVgb5xqK2prNRx1s6bD4J36sQ2vJKyVGWyciR002Dv1Cvni05IKfWAWsHEAiLCSqZnHmso4#:~:text=Group%2DIB's%20branding%20and%20trademarks,cyberattacks%2C%20breaches%20and%20online%20fraud.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cyber-firm-group-ib-finalises-russia-split-spur-global-ambitions-2023-04-20/

https://www.techinasia.com/sg-cybersecurity-firm-exits-russian-market

The 3 articles above detail out Group-IB's exit from Russia. JacobP2710 (talk) 08:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done by another editor. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 20:30, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting an edit someone else has made

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Specific text to be added or removed: Remove "Russia" from the headquarters line in the box on the right.

Reason for the change: As established in the previous edit in this thread, the company is NOT headquartered in Russia. It is headquartered in Singapore.

References supporting change: https://www.tis.bizfile.gov.sg/ngbtisinternet/faces/oracle/webcenter/portalapp/pages/TransactionMain.jspx?selectedETransId=dirSearch

Above is a link to the website of the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA), the government body and regulator responsible for business registration, financial reporting, public accountants and corporate service providers in Singapore. If you type Group-IB into the search box, you'll see data pertaining to its incorporation in Singapore.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/group-ib-united-states-expansion/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEhda89h-l317qBTk1AfkyVvkJKQW6ot8RxiG4MrOvZBG0UW2AIZjw2qWqPGrbEm3IWl7U1jqtAUNWFnMZkmJLSBiujdNzkpGUeINsVgb5xqK2prNRx1s6bD4J36sQ2vJKyVGWyciR002Dv1Cvni05IKfWAWsHEAiLCSqZnHmso4#:~:text=Group%2DIB's%20branding%20and%20trademarks,cyberattacks%2C%20breaches%20and%20online%20fraud.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cyber-firm-group-ib-finalises-russia-split-spur-global-ambitions-2023-04-20/

https://www.techinasia.com/sg-cybersecurity-firm-exits-russian-market

The 3 articles above detail out Group-IB's exit from Russia.

Apologies for repeating myself, but these are the pieces of evidence that validate the fact that the HQ is not in Russia. JacobP2710 (talk) 07:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Encoded Talk 💬 21:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove most recent edits due to contextual inaccuracies

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

* Specific text to be added or removed: Remove "In 2023, it split into two companies with a branch remaining in Moscow branded F.A.C.C.T. Group-IB and a branch in Singapore" and "The Russian and international business were later split with the business sold in April 2023 to Russian management to be branded FACCT. FACCT would market Group-IB products and services while being a separate entity allowing Group-IB to not directly have a presence. Ilya Sachkov maintains his involvement in the Russian business." These edits were not made by me, just to clarify!

Add "but now headquartered in Singapore" to the opening sentence "Group-IB is a cybersecurity company founded in 2003 in Moscow." I've already requested for this edit twice previously, and have provided my supporting evidence there.

Reason for the change: As established in the previous edit in this thread, the company is NOT headquartered in Russia. It is headquartered in Singapore. If we want to get specific, look at the exact quotes and text within this Techcrunch article. (https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/group-ib-united-states-expansion/)

Drawing your attention specifically to this: Volkov sold his stake in Group-IB’s Russia-based business to the company’s local management, and the standalone Russian business now operates under the brand F.A.C.C.T. Group-IB’s branding and trademarks will cease to be in operation in Russia by the end of 2023.

According to Mirriam-Webster (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stand-alone), the definition of standalone is: intended, designed, or able to be used or to function alone or separately : not connected to or requiring connection to something else in order to be used or to function.

The editor used the term branch (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/branch), which is defined as a division of an organization or a separate but dependent part of a central organization.

By these aforementioned definitions, it would then be incorrect to say that F.A.C.C.T is a "branch" of Group-IB.

I would also like to draw your attention to this Reuters article (https://www.reuters.com/technology/cyber-firm-group-ib-finalises-russia-split-spur-global-ambitions-2023-04-20/).

Drawing your attention specifically to this: Volkov has sold his 10% stake in the Russian company, Group-IB said in a statement. The stand-alone Russian business has been sold to local management and will be operating under the new brand F.A.C.C.T.

"All of Group-IB's research and development processes, along with the company's full stack of technologies and products, will be withdrawn from Russia," the group said.

"This process marks the completion of the second stage of the regional business diversification announced by Group-IB in July 2022 ... and the final withdrawal of the Group-IB brand from the Russian market," it said.

Group-IB's withdrawing from Russia also entailed the withdrawing of R&D processes and full stack of tech and products. Yet the edit made says that FACCT would market Group-IB products and services - which is false given that the products and services have been withdrawn.

References supporting change: https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/01/group-ib-united-states-expansion/

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cyber-firm-group-ib-finalises-russia-split-spur-global-ambitions-2023-04-20/ JacobP2710 (talk) 07:00, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 4-DEC-2024

Clarification requested

It is not clear what changes are requested to be made. Specifically, the sentence or sentences that are to be removed have not been clarified.^[1]
The proposed addition uses language which seems to forecast future events (e.g., "FACCT would market Group-IB products and services..."). If this was not the intent, this sentence needs to be modified.
The claim "Ilya Sachkov maintains his involvement in the Russian business." is unclear. Please describe what that "involvement" pertains to.
When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{Edit COI}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=y to |ans=n.

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Thank you! Regards, Spintendo 12:00, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spintendo, apologies. Have specified now exactly which segments I'd like removed. Appreciate the kind consideration, and thank you. JacobP2710 (talk) 03:01, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the claim "Ilya Sachkov maintains his involvement in the Russian business." being unclear. its something that I'm not privy to in my capacity being associated with Group-IB. If my suggested edits are approved, they would render this claim moot. JacobP2710 (talk) 09:13, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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