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Requested move 9 December 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 14:40, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gout Gout → Guot Guot – According to this source, during a translation from Arabic the family name was incorrectly spelled as "Gout" when it should be "Guot" (pronounced as "Gwot"). However, it should be noted that the official records have not been changed, so should Wikipedia go by the official record or by the real name? KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 12:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We should call the article Freak Bob cause that's the phonetic spelling of his name in my native language. 206.57.234.163 (talk) 16:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from unconstructive comments as these could lead to a block. Thanks and cheers! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 16:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose despite understanding where the desire comes from. "Gout Gout" is both WP:COMMONNAME and his official name. It is a fascinating instance but "Guot Guot" is merely the name he could have and has no actuality. I also think the current lead sentence (Guot Guot, officially Gout Gout) is therefore undue; a correct pronunciation note and keeping the details in the early life section should suffice. CalDoesIt (talk) 18:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with this take and am making the changes now. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 19:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That addition is good. HiLo48 (talk) 03:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page should be changed to reflect the person's official name. Professional athletes are permitted to change their names by their world governing bodies with records backdated to reflect such changes. For example, Lizzie Armitstead got married years after commencing as a professional cyclists, and the Union Cycliste Internationale backdated their records to reflect her married name - Have a look at this URL and you will see her married name in the 2009 'Women Elite Scratch' result. https://www.uci.org/competition-details/2009/PIS/33734 Besides all this, the athlete represented their country for the first time only 4 months ago - that short time doesn't make an incorrect name Wikipedia common. Factrules (talk) 04:32, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This runner's common name AND real name simply IS Gout Gout. It's what he calls himself, what the media has called him for some time and what his birth certificate says. It can change in the future if his common name changes. HiLo48 (talk) 06:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Like @CalDoesIt I get the reasoning but per a 7NEWS article "...the man himself is happy with his name and doesn't want the change..."Call me Gout" he told 7NEWS on Monday through his agent."

As @HiLo48 stated if his common name changes, change the page name, but leave until then Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 10:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. The name of this article should be his official name or the name people call him. Or we could put his nickname or real name in parentheses like this Guot Guot(Gout Gout) if he ever begins to prefer the name Guot Guot. Dh415965 (talk) 03:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal Someone should ad the pronunciation parenthetically, as with other Sudanese names, e.g. Athing_Mu. One thing that is unclear from the interview is whether both the first and last names are pronounced that way (I assume they are, but it's not stated explicitly). Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with the pronunciation methodology. MATThematical (talk) 21:47, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose his name is Gout Gout. If he wants to be known as Guot Guot, he can change his name. Imagine being told that your Wikipedia page is not titled how you spell your name, but the different spelling your ancestors might have used. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:33, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, frankly this should have been a question not a full-blown move request. You can't change an article's name for this reason, mainly due to WP:COMMONNAME. Mountaincirque^talk 16:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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We need a consensus. Is it Guot or Gout. Sushidude21! (talk) 09:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's Gout. That's what's on his birth certificate. And it's the name he's been publicly known as all his life. Yes, apparently there was mistake made in the family name during immigration, but until his family makes an official change here in Australia, Gout Gout it is. HiLo48 (talk) 10:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]