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Requested move 7 April 2017

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The result of the move request was: Page Moved (non-admin closure) Yashovardhan (talk) 13:38, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]


GorsuchGorsuch (surname) – It is implausible at this point that the primary topic of this term will be anything other than the United States Supreme Court Justice. Other names on the page (and the surname as a topic) fall far by the wayside in comparison. Move this page so that this title can redirect to Neil Gorsuch. bd2412 T 22:09, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Though it is implausible the primary topic will be something else, that doesn't necessarily mean Neil himself will be the long-term primary topic. How does this differ from the multiple attempts to redirect Trump to Donald Trump?  ONR  (talk)  23:58, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Trump is also a common noun (the kind of card), with numerous other meanings, including things like place names. Gorsuch has a much smaller universe of meanings, all surnames of specific people of comparatively minor notability. bd2412 T 02:02, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

:Oppose. The primary topic for a surname is nearly always the surname itself. --Srleffler (talk) 01:45, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I like the list you referenced, as it actually supports my case. None of the top ten UK names points to a single individual of that name. All but one point to either a dab page, or an article on the surname itself. The one exception is Brown, which of course points to the colour. To refine what I am trying to say: if a word is only a surname (no other notable meanings) and there is an article about that surname, the name should be the article title and there should be a hatnote to a dab page listing notable individuals by that name, if there is more than one. If there is not yet an article about the surname, the name should usually point to the disambiguation page that lists all notable individuals by that name. I'm open to discussion on the case where there is not yet an article on the surname itself, and one individual is significantly more notable than all the others.--Srleffler (talk) 20:15, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. With his confirmation, this should obviously be moved. People are clearly searching Gorsuch to get to Neil Gorsuch's article, and they likely will for a long time, SCOTUS justices are hardly fleeting. And, come on, what other challengers for the long-term primary topic status are there? Dick Gorsuch and Harry Gorsuch are barely notable, and Anne Gorsuch Burford was a low-ranking cabinet member for less than two years. Clearly the primary topic is Neil here. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:58, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nomination. With virtually no competition, the judge is, indeed, primary. Such a move would not even be setting a Supreme Court precedent as confirmed by the above-mentioned names of five recent justices, one of whom is still on the Court. Such redirects are nothing new — four of the five above-linked judicial surnames have existed since 2003 – 04. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 08:12, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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