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Please do not redirect to the old Company — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.203.124.14 (talk) 23:44, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi. Please do not just blank the redirect without a good explanation. If there is something we have overlooked, please open a new section on Talk:ABC Learning so we can discuss it. Thank you. --Sam Sailor Talk! 00:19, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Zep6767 and Sam Sailor: As the creator of this page, as a re-direct, 7 July 2012 I believe that I did so after ABC Learning (ABCL) 'crashed'. Later in August 2012.[1] there were attempts to turn ABCL into a page more about Goodstart (GS) by Goodstartearlylearning (talk · contribs) who didn't reply to talk-page messages.
- ABCL "... was once the world's largest provider of early childhood education services"
- Admittedly Goodstart, IIRC, took over much of what was ABCL, but they are separate entities and should probably be treated as such. If Goodstart is notable, then it should have a separate, non-promotional and encyclopaedic page. It claims:
- "Goodstart Early Learning is Australia’s largest early learning provider.",
- but is sourced to the GS home web-page[2] and that doesn't seem to say this. Otherwise this page should re-direct to the ABC Learning page section with information about how GS took over the remains of ABCL. IMHO. - 220 of Borg 11:16, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Zep6767 and Sam Sailor: As the creator of this page, as a re-direct, 7 July 2012 I believe that I did so after ABC Learning (ABCL) 'crashed'. Later in August 2012.[1] there were attempts to turn ABCL into a page more about Goodstart (GS) by Goodstartearlylearning (talk · contribs) who didn't reply to talk-page messages.
- @220 of Borg and Zep6767: Looking at 2011 sources like e.g.
- "ABC Learning gets new name". The Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 18 May 2016., and
- "Lateline Business - 15/11/2011: ABC Learning rebranded ahead of new standards". Retrieved 18 May 2016.
- it appears they did take over ABC Learning assets. 220 of Borg may be right that they should have two separate articles.
- Looking at sources like e.g.
- "Budget 2016: Child care groups 'extremely disappointed' by subsidies delay". ABC News. 4 May 2016.
John Cherry from the country's largest child care provider, Goodstart Early Learning, said the decision would hurt families.
- "All volunteer work should qualify parents for childcare payments, providers say". The Sydney Morning Herald. 4 August 2015.
Australia's largest childcare provider, Goodstart Early Learning, along with the Australian Childcare Alliance and the Early Learning and Care Council ...
, and - "Takeover targets: childcare back in fashion". The Australian. 4 July 2015.
The company, which owns 475 centres, making it the second-largest childcare group behind the not-for-profit Goodstart Early Learning ...
- "Budget 2016: Child care groups 'extremely disappointed' by subsidies delay". ABC News. 4 May 2016.
- confirm that ABC Learning is the largest Australian provider. I notice that SwisterTwister (talk · contribs) drove by and PRODed this article with the rational
still questionable for WP:Notability (organizations and companies) and WP:GNG
after having spend c. 2 minutes on it (Diff of Dil Aur Mohabbat → Diff of Goodstart Early Learning). Looking into the references provided, and looking into the sources that can be found - something that obviously takes a lot more time than 2 minutes - a lack of notability is not the challenge here. I am going to de-PROD the article and stub it, the section § History sounds like an inside job to me. Sam Sailor Talk! 12:20, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
- @220 of Borg and Zep6767: Looking at 2011 sources like e.g.