Talk:Gisborne District

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Maori name

Can anyone supply a citation for the Maori name? Maori Wikipedia has the region as Tūranga-nui-a-Kiwa, the same name as the settlement. Skinsmoke (talk) 05:51, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 24 May 2014

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The result of the move request was: moved to Gisborne District. Other suggestions created as redirects. Jenks24 (talk) 11:37, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gisborne Region → Gisborne (region) OR

Gisborne Region → Gisborne (district)

Please see the previous RM involving this article, which resulted mostly in consensus to relist this one individually. Exceptionally, I am neutral on the topic of moving and will leave my colleagues to make their point as they wish. --Relisted. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 11:27, 1 June 2014 (UTC) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 19:30, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Support some sort of change. I could go with either Gisborne (region) to Gisborne (district), but the current name is not appropriate since "Region" was never part of the name. I would be happy to support either. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:12, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I've slightly amended my opinion in the section below. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:25, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support change to Gisborne District. After seeing the 1989 Reorganisation Order (mentioned below in Discussion) it appears to me that neither Gisborne Region nor Gisborne District are wrong names. The sign at the point where the road from Te Kaha crosses the boundary reads "GISBORNE DISTRICT". Coupled with the fact that it is governed by the Gisborne District Council, I slightly favour Gisborne District. As I no longer think Gisborne Region is strictly wrong, I am open to hearing arguments for retaining the present name. Nurg (talk) 10:44, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm in basic agreement with what you have written. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:07, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Despite the two "support" and no "oppose" votes above, and the relisting, and the previous consensus at Talk:Bay of Plenty Region#Requested move, there seems no consensus to move here. See also below. Andrewa (talk) 04:38, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Just one comment at this point - I've just read the Local Government (Gisborne Region) Reorganisation Order 1989 and it appears incorrect to say that "Region" was never part of the name. Part 3 of the Order says "There is hereby constituted a district, to be known as "The Gisborne District" and a region to be known as "The Gisborne Region" ...". Copy at http://kapaikaiti.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/order-in-council.pdf. Nurg (talk) 11:21, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point. Maybe it's more fair to say that there was a high degree of variability as to how the region was referred to. If it were shown that "Gisborne Region" was indeed the common name, I would support it, though from what I have seen I don't think that was the case. I could support Gisborne District as well if it is the common name today. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:23, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In summary:

Gisborne (region) no longer has support.
Gisborne (district) no longer has support.
Gisborne District has some support, but there's no evidence that it should be preferred to the existing name.
Gisborne Region, the existing name, should therefore remain the name of the article.

Am I missing something? Do we need to relist again? Andrewa (talk) 04:38, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can support either Gisborne (district) or Gisborne District as my first choices. I think that the main reason the "district" version would be preferred over the "region" version is that the district currently exists, whereas the region is purely historical, and there seems to be a slight preference for using a name that is in current use rather than using a name from the past that is no longer used. From what I can see, Gisborne District currently has more support than Gisborne Region. Both commenters above have stated their preference is for Gisborne District over Gisborne Region. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:50, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is consensus to change to Gisborne District. I don't agree that Gisborne Region is purely historical and no longer used. There are many terms in current use, including Gisborne District, Gisborne Region, Gisborne district, Gisborne region, East Coast, Eastland etc. So Good Ol’factory and I differ in our approach, but both of us support changing to Gisborne District in preference to the existing name. Nurg (talk) 10:05, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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