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A fact from Gathland State Park appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 January 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the world's only memorial to war correspondents is located in Maryland's Gathland State Park?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/January.

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"Other" memorials

One is plain old building, and one is a tree. This is an actual monument and, as far as I can see, still the only one in the world. Perhaps "memorial" needs to be changed to "monument" to avoid confusion; I could paint my car into a memorial for fallen reporters but that doesn't make it a monument. Kafziel ^Talk 13:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wait... on second look, it already says monument. So where's the confusion? Surely Bwithh is not trying to compare the Overseas Press Club with the Washington Monument or the Taj Mahal? Kafziel ^Talk 13:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's no confusion. The dictionary definition of "monument" includes 1) buildings (the Memorial Press Center building was dedicated by President Eisenhower as a living memorial to fallen journalists) and 2) memorial stone markers (the memorial in Arlington is more than a tree - there's a stone marker) e.g. see

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/monument "1. A structure, such as a building or sculpture, erected as a memorial. 2. An inscribed marker placed at a grave; a tombstone."

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/monument "a memorial stone or a building erected in remembrance of a person or event"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/monument "something erected in memory of a person, event, etc., as a building, pillar, or statue"; "a written tribute to a person, esp. a posthumous one."

(A monument can even be just a designated location without a special artificial structure, so a special tree would count too. Here's an example of this notion being used in the policy of a major city[1]) Bwithh 18:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a better way to differentiate them than what I've done already, I'm all ears. They're quite obviously not on the same level; one is a tree, one is a private building, one is a giant monument in a state park maintained by the National Park Service. (By the way, the stone at Arlington is not technically part of the memorial; it's just a place to put the explanation without nailing it to the tree itself.) Perhaps the difference is intent; the arch was built expressly as a monument to journalists, while the tree and the building were already there and were later dedicated as memorials. All three of your dictionary definitions state that a monument is something erected for the purpose of memorial; neither the tree nor the building were originally erected for such a purpose.

On another note, to say that either of those other ones is "prominent" is pretty hopelessly pov. Kafziel ^Talk 18:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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