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Does anybody have a picture of the Big G that we could use here.Kingjoey52a 14:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Indigenous history

To be more complete I included information about the Tillamook people, Captain Robert Gray, The Hobson Indian Community, and the controversy about Gray's statue. Art to Tech (talk) 01:45, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kerfluffle regarding Gray's statue at the Garibaldi Maritime Museum

It is important to include the suggestion to remove Gray's statue, because this shows connection to the national (and global) movement to remove statues that glorify colonizers, Christopher Columbus, for example. I have rewritten to be more neutral. Art to Tech (talk) 18:42, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please leave this historical information in as is. The way it is now written is not biased - it's things that happened. Art to Tech (talk) 20:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Scottatwater The section of the page where we disagree is about Garibaldi's history. The controversy that Helen Hill started when she suggested removing the statue is part of Garibaldi's history. The content does not address whether her claim is correct, only that she made the claim. From the article, it looks like the museum might add information, but will leave the statue in place (It was there in August 2021 when I visited). I will add a sentence to that effect. But removing a piece of history because you don't like it is not how Wikipedia works. Art to Tech (talk) 02:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Scottatwater please use this talk page, not email. Scottatwater sent this email: Art Tech? How is it for you to decide. The information about Capt Gray is incorrect. You are sorely mistaken. Helen has referenced incorrect information. It is biased and untruthful. In "The History of the Pacific Northwest" start at page 186 here: https://archive.org/details/historyofpacific01nort Brian Raffety's book "The Spirit of the Tillamook People" references the natives having slaves as well... Take a look here: http://www.dutchclarke.com/Stories/tillamook.html We do not want her link to Portland's "Street Roots" on the page either, as it is biased. We want only FACTS. Ok? . Scottatwater That Helen Hill suggested removing the statue is a fact. You can address Gray's reputation on the Robert Gray (sea captain) page. Art to Tech (talk) 17:56, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Art to Tech and Scottatwater: I just want to underscore what Art to Tech said. Scott, if you did use email for this the first time, please do heed the suggestion to use this talk page instead to sort it out.

To address the substance, I agree that including facts about objections to the statue is worthwhile. However, it feels slightly out of place due to the absence of any info on how the statue came to be there to begin with, what property it's on, who owns it, etc. If it's possible to add a preceding sentence or two about the statue, I think it would help with the overall picture. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 16:24, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]