Talk:G. F. Vernon's cricket team in Ceylon and India in 1889–90/GA1

GA Review

Passed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 18:52, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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Lede

Ceylon will need a link. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done. BoJó | talk UTC 13:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Notes in lede will need citing. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, yes, I meant to attend to those. Now done. BoJó | talk UTC 13:56, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ould not be described as top-class - I think I mentioned this in another review, but unless "top-class" is jargon we shoudn't use it. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. I've changed it to say the team and its matches were not recognised as first-class. BoJó | talk UTC 13:57, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
28 November to 7 December before moving on to Calcutta where the Indian part of the tour began on 23 December. - considering we have the start and end dates of the whole tour, can we not use early/late December for start/end dates? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done. You're right – too many specific dates in a short span. BoJó | talk UTC 13:58, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Vernon's XI won ten matches, six by an innings. Two were drawn and they were defeated once - I feel like this kinda overplays the matches. Can we not say "of the thirteen matches, Vernon's XI won ten matches (six by over an innings) and drew two. They were defeated only once... Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've used your wording which emphasises that the team was successful overall. BoJó | talk UTC 13:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We have a section on "aftermath" and should really be included in the lede. For instance The tour was a success and it made a significant contribution to the growth and development of cricket in the sub-continent. seems like very lede-worthy stuff. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. I've added that at the end of the lead. BoJó | talk UTC 14:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General

Link P&O. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done. BoJó | talk UTC 14:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I know we don't link major destinations, but Colarado, Calcutta and Ceylon probably don't meet this distinction. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For Colorado, did you mean Colombo? I've linked first instances of these in lead and narrative. Please let me know if you spot any others. BoJó | talk UTC 14:02, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
but everyone was shocked - editorialising. Remove Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It was, really. I've amended it to read "...progressing well until the sudden death on 10 September of H. E. Rhodes..." BoJó | talk UTC 14:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
his erstwhile colleagues - fluff. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Changed wording to "...the same day the team was due to depart..." BoJó | talk UTC 14:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Notes need sourcing.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Same ones as in lead. BoJó | talk UTC 14:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The tour began in Kandy on 28 November 1889. The team played two matches in Ceylon and then moved on to India in December. Starting with the match against the Calcutta Cricket Club at Eden Gardens on 23 December, they played eleven matches in India to the end of February 1890. - all unsourced Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Can you leave this one with me for the moment. Looks like an oversight. BoJó | talk UTC 14:07, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Found the itinerary and added citation. BoJó | talk UTC 15:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

in most cases, any connection to a modern club is tenuous at best. - remove, doesn't add anything to the previous part of the sentence. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done. BoJó | talk UTC 14:09, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the table needs a dedicated refs column. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. That's a definite improvement. BoJó | talk UTC 14:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The tables probably need some rowscopes. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. I agree. Looks better than having right-handed in nearly every batting cell. BoJó | talk UTC 14:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Review meta comments

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:52, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Lee. Please let me know of any questions and I'll try to help. BoJó | talk UTC 04:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for doing the review, Lee. As before, very thorough and you've helped improve the article. I think I've covered everything above but please let me know if you need anything else. All the best. BoJó | talk UTC 15:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good work with this one. I'm happy to promote. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:35, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Lee. Much appreciated and all the best. BoJó | talk UTC 15:38, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.