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A fact from Fukuppy appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 December 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Fukushima Industries' corporate mascot was originally called Fukuppy?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fukuppy.

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 16:41, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Fukushima Industries's corporate mascot was originally called Fukuppy?

Reviewed: This is the last of my five "free" DYK submissions.
Comment: The {{orphan}} tag should hide automatically on 1 December 2020; I haven't been able to think of any link-in which wouldn't be an unjustified shoehorn. (UPDATE - now de-orphaned. Narky Blert (talk) 21:13, 28 November 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Created by Narky Blert (talk). Self-nominated at 18:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

This was a very interesting read

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Hook is very catchy. New enough: Created 22 November nominated 289 November. Long enough: 2004 readable prose characters. Hook cited: Hook is and referenced in the article. Neutral: no problem here. Inline citations: Very well referenced. Copyvio: Earwig's tool used, no copyvio detected however violation probability is affected by a verbatim quote. QPQ: not required. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 07:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this is a cute hook, but we don't put names on the main page that don't have a Wikipedia link. Could you write a stub for the company? Yoninah (talk) 14:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I don't think I could get them through WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:GNG. The references in the Japanese article ({{ill}}-linked in para 2) are thin, and I'd guess the history (which goes back to 1951) was taken from the company's website. A search on the Japanese name フクシマガリレイ turned up a fair amount of financial stuff; a search on the English name mainly turned up this incident. I get the impression of a major player well-known in the trade, but not a household name; not surprising considering the business they're in. This self-description looks fair, but is WP:SELFPUB. A stub based around Fukuppy would be WP:UNDUE, and unfair.

I'd be happy to omit the company name from the hook. The link I just posted says that they can "respond to unlikely events immediately". I couldn't say this in the article, because none of the sources does - but their response to this potential PR disaster strikes me as having shown just that, and been exemplary. It must have been hugely embarrassing (and I imagine their branding consultants got a bollocking).

How about ALT-1, ~~... that a Japanese refrigeration manufacturer launched its corporate mascot under the name Fukuppy?~~

Or ALT-2, ~~... that a major Japanese refrigeration manufacturer launched its corporate mascot under the name Fukuppy?~~ (The Guardian 2013 citation says "major". I left it out of the article to avoid unwelcome attention in User:InceptionBot/NewPageSearch/Bad/log (which records possible WP:PUFFERY), but it could always be added.) Narky Blert (talk) 15:49, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Narky Blert: I'm not talking about a whole article, just a one-line stub to get that blue link on the front page. I think ALT0 makes more sense than the other hooks. Yoninah (talk) 19:51, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I could write a stub article all right, and WP:REFBOMB it; but I wouldn't be able to defend it at WP:PROD let alone WP:AFD. It would be pure WP:GAMING to try to get an article into DYK. Narky Blert (talk) 20:54, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK. So we need a review of ALT1 or ALT2, both to verify the hook facts and to give an opinion on hook interest. Pinging original reviewer @Elie plus: Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Thank you for pointing this out; I didn't know about this rule. I agree that a stub for the company would do the job; I believe that the notoriety of the mascot incident alone is enough to save it from deletion. I'd also stick with Alt0. @Narky Blert: please ping me when you make a decision. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 12:16, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Elie plus: For some reason, your ping never arrived. I'll write a stub (without REFBOMBing...) and post here once it's up. Narky Blert (talk) 19:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah and Elie plus: Now at Fukushima Industries; which brings ALT-0 back into play. Narky Blert (talk) 21:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does. Thanks for the blue link. Restoring tick for ALT0 per Elie plus's review. Yoninah (talk) 16:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]