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@TimothyBlue: What were the concerns that you saw with the article? If you can provide some examples, I'd like to do some fixing :) WMrapids (talk) 03:17, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The use of cherry-picking as you only use anti-fujimorist sources and omit plenty of neutral sources, or the fact that while you use academic sources, you start making your own conclusions from the articles, which violates SYNTH rule Alejandro Basombrio (talk) 18:58, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Alejandro Basombrio and Alejandro Basombrio: Which sources are "anti-fujimorist"?--WMrapids (talk) 10:14, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because they are from anti-Fujimorist media, exactly the same problem that exists with Pedro Castillo. ComradeHektor (talk) 18:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JD John M. Turner Hi! I think it's best to discuss this here, since the neutrality label was there before you removed it. And According to the rules, the latest consensus edition is the valid one. ComradeHektor (talk) 18:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not find any anti-Fujimorist media. JD John M. Turner (talk) 18:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LaRepública, Mario Vargas Llosa, Coda Media... In addition, the wording, at least at the time I read it for the first time, is biased, as it shows that Fujimorism holds power in the country (in fact quite the opposite) in a speech that coincidentally coincides with the position of the Castillistas. ComradeHektor (talk) 18:47, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the proof that all this is a concoction is in Vargas Llosa himself, who is conservative and anti-Fujimorista. ComradeHektor (talk) 18:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People's opinions are attributed to them. JD John M. Turner (talk) 18:56, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to Associate Professor Joseph Pozsgai-Alvarez of Osaka University, La República, overall, is "a politically neutral outlet and one of the most important in the country".^[1] --Wikipedia article of La Republica JD John M. Turner (talk) 18:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

La Republica is an anti-Fujimorista newspaper, every Peruvian knows that and they themselves make it clear from time to time: https://larepublica.pe/politica/255145-la-republica-siempre-mantuvo-su-linea-editorial-critica-a-fujimori-y-montesinos ComradeHektor (talk) 18:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even its introduction in the Spanish Wikipedia makes it very clear, and it is not that they have not had the possibility of editing it. ComradeHektor (talk) 19:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. JD John M. Turner (talk) 19:05, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this article is a translation of the article in Spanish, also translated by a user who was expelled from Wikipedia for his partial edits. ComradeHektor (talk) 19:15, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked and it is exactly the opposite, the Spanish version is the translation of the English article. JD John M. Turner (talk) 19:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, however, that does not take away my argument that this article was written by a non-neutral person and has not been properly neutralized. ComradeHektor (talk) 19:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For example, changing the wording or sources. ComradeHektor (talk) 19:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“[All Peruvians know it]” is not a reliable argument. The article you linked talks about the civil-military dictatorship of Alberto Fujimori and Vladimiro Montesinos, not the Fujimorist movement. JD John M. Turner (talk) 19:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If its editorial line is against the Fujimoris, by definition it is anti-Fujimorist. ComradeHektor (talk) 19:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ Pozsgai-Alvarez, Joseph (July 2017). "Putting Out the Fire of Anti-Corruption Demands: The Symbolic Adoption of a National Anti-Corruption Office in Peru, 2007-2008". European Quarterly of Political Attitudes and Mentalities. 6 (3). University of Bucharest: 15–31. the newspaper La República, a politically neutral outlet and one of the most important in the country

[1] Pozsgai-Alvarez, Joseph (July 2017). "Putting Out the Fire of Anti-Corruption Demands: The Symbolic Adoption of a National Anti-Corruption Office in Peru, 2007-2008". European Quarterly of Political Attitudes and Mentalities. 6 (3). University of Bucharest: 15–31. the newspaper La República, a politically neutral outlet and one of the most important in the country

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