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There are those who would even dispute reference to this man as the Count zu Solms-Wildenfels, given the status of historical hereditary titles in Germany, but that usage can at least be documented from references to reliable sources. The attribution to him of the title "Prince of Schwarzburg" is mind-boggling in the many levels of error it propagates. First, there is no evidence that he claims, uses or even knows of this title. Second, "Prince of Schwarzburg" was the proper title of the sovereigns of a nation of that name until 1918, which ceased to exist from that date. Third, the application of semi-Salicism to his mother in order to deduce and state in Wikipedia that Friedrich Magnus inherited this title through her after the aboliton of the monarchy of Schwarzburg is not only a biased point of view, but seriously and deliberately misleads readers of this encyclopedia into believing non-truths: Semi-Salicism is a complicated kind of inheritance rule, which existed in several different forms: to know which is applicable here would require a scholarly and legal analysis of the law adopted in 1896 as contrasted with German Private Princely law. At best, Friedrich Magnus is a pretender to the throne of the abolished Principality of Schwarzburg. Fourth, the rationale for this article is openly taken from the Schwarzburg pages on François Velde's website Heraldica.org. While his speculations on the claim of Friedrich Magnus are scholarly in nature, neutral and well-sourced, he does not declare this man to be Prince of Schwarzburg, if for no other reason than that Velde's historical research led him to conclude that another man, Philipp, 5th Prince zu Stolberg-Wernigerode would have a very strong claim to the principality, if it existed, and to the title, if there were any lawful authority to adjudicate his rights in comparison to those of Friedrich Magnus. The arguments on these potential claims may be of interest, but any conclusions are entirely speculative and impossible to consider definitive. For Wikipedia to be used (apparently by promoters of their own/favorite websites and by a notoriously unreliable and biased replica of history's most authoritative series on royalty/royal titles) to disseminate royalist disinformation as if it were fact is a disservice to this encyclopedia, to royal scholarship and to history. Congratulations Wikipedia, you have unwittingly joined the scores of those who peddle False titles of nobility to an unsuspecting public! FactStraight (talk) 09:28, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Could you change the title then? It bugs me, really. IlyasVII (talk) 18:32, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 December 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]



Friedrich Magnus, Count of Solms-WildenfelsFriedrich Magnus VI, Count of Solms-Wildenfels – As he is the sixth Count under this name. 2601:241:301:4360:DC61:3208:D852:EBBE (talk) 06:10, 15 December 2019 (UTC)Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 08:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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