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This article is extremely biased, and is not the truth.

I am a Karen Christian from Rangoon, who grew up in Arakan, Karen and Kachin states. I must say, much of the things said in the article about religious freedom in Burma is poppycock. Even from my point of view, yes, there are some limitations, but not to the degree of that said here.

There have been reports of church burnings in the border, but the government doesn't restrict my church, nor the ones I attended. In Kachin state, oddly, the US government continues to say that majority are christian - there is a Christian community, but, mostly they are animists. The Karens, about 25-35% are christians, though the people are just revolving door converts - they switch as freely between any religion that they come across, especially in the rural areas.

We are allowed to do whatever we like during those class prayers - we don't bother to leave, but we are never forced to recite them, even if I was the only non-Buddhist in the classroom.

Evangelism is banned, but, well, thats not Christianity anyway. For God's sake, I'd wish people would write the next to correct versions, not based on personal convictions or the US government's report - do you still trust it after Iraq? I don't.

Daniel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.250.8 (talk) 10:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One of the essential Christian beliefs is in Evangelism. Look at the Great Commission, go and make disciples of all nations. Restrictions on evangelism and repression of converts is a violation of freedom of religion. I'm not seeing any US bias and without specific passages cited, I'm removing the US GOVT POV tag. Benkenobi18 (talk) 05:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pedantry and Christian zeal. I just got back from travelling around Myanmar and totally agree with Daniel's comments above. Buddhism is huge of course and promoted with about the same fervour as the US promotes Christianity (and much less than certain middle East countries promote Islam). Buddhists, Christians, Muslims and Hindus living happily together is the reality, go see for yourselves instead of believing US GOVT reports. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.79.202.76 (talk) 13:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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This article really needs to be updated and cleaned up as it doesen't have any citations at all making this article extremely unreliable and possibly biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.106.142.1 (talk) 10:49, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This article is copied from a US government report

Adam Cuerden, 99% of the text in this article was copied from the International Religious Freedom Report 2007, Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor. A note informs the reader that "This article incorporates public domain material from the United States Department of State document "International Religious Freedom Report 2007" (no copyright violation) but I think presenting a government report as an article in wikipedia is incompatible with our neutral point of view policy. JimRenge (talk) 10:41, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you complaining to me? I just removed some vandalism. Also, while the American government might have issues with bias when reporting on itself, I'd presume it's a reasonably reliable source on this kind of thing. It's not good to have one-source articles, but I'd hardly say there's any prima facie evidence from the facts of the source that this violates NPOV. Other sources could be brought in to challenge claims, but you're really going to need to do better than that to prove a claim that everything is terrible. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 14:51, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your cmt at ANI and read this article because I have been involved in reverting recent vandalism on Myanmar related articles. I just adressed you, I have definitely no reason to complain about your edits. JimRenge (talk) 17:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I'm not going to say it's a great article, but NPOV isn't particularly badly served here; what it needs is additional sources (to broaden the coverage) and to be brought up to date a bit. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 11:19, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

While the US govt is not necessarily biased, the article could use a lot more sources and be updated to today/2020. Furthermore, the complains from users in 2008 indicate a different problem that the article completely ignores: the disproportionate application of freedom of religion in different parts of Burma. During military campaigns and ethnic cleansing, the military has targeted religious minorities strongly, but a balanced article would also mention the lesser extent to which freedom of religion is suppressed in core cities. The report, being from 2007 is also overly reliant on Than Shwe era freedoms, which is relevant but should not be the entire focus of the article. For these reasons, I've tagged it it with the the problem tags concerning NPOV and sources. I think a full rewrite is warranted. EmeraldRange (talk) 04:18, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]