Talk:Fred Brooks

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On 7 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Frederick Brooks. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Adding people to a late project makes it later.

Brooks made this statement in "The Mythical Man Month" and since then it's been known as "Brooks' Law". I think it's noteworthy - but would it be mentioned here or under "The Mythical Man-Month"?—Preceding unsigned comment added by IBaghdadi (talk • contribs) 07:36, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Briefly here (1-2 sentences), and at more length in the book's article. Stan 12:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The entry here states that Brooks founded the Department of Computer Science and UNC in 1965. But his bio on the UNC website says it was 1964: http://www.cs.unc.edu/People/Faculty/Bios/brooks.html. But perhaps it is a typo, because in the same article it says that he left IBM in 1965. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.136.231.46 (talk) 05:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

His resume says the same. He founded the department before leaving IBM. https://www.cs.unc.edu/~brooks/FPB_BIO.CV.04.2007.pdf 71.212.138.93 (talk) 00:55, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like most references to Brooks Christian ethos often outlined in his work (humility, servant leadership) have been scrubbed by the Wikipedia rabbinical council. A shame because it illustrates so many important ideas in his essays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.136.106.87 (talk) 00:22, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Death

It looks like his death has been announced on Twitter.[1]. Once it's reflected in a WP:RS the article can be updated. Park3r (talk) 03:35, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Park3r

Done PhotographyEdits (talk) 11:53, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Source for "No Silver Bullet – Essence and Accidents of Software Engineering" is dead — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.237.145.50 (talk) 05:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works ping me! 00:14, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Brooks → Frederick Brooks – Although the computer scientist was addressed as "Fred" in interviews, his public name and his pen name was "Frederick Brooks", "Frederick P. Brooks" or "Frederick P. Brooks Jr." His entry contains 33 inline cites, virtually all of which refer to him by his full name, not as "Fred Brooks". If consensus would prefer the longer forms: Fred Brooks → Frederick P. Brooks or Fred Brooks → Frederick P. Brooks Jr., I would also support those alternatives. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:07, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't move I had a 45-year career as a computer engineer and now teach the history of computing. Except on book covers and formal citations, Fred Brooks is universally referred to as Fred Brooks. WP:COMMONNAME. E Eng 07:53, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't move - As EEng said, Fred Brooks is by far the most WP:COMMONNAME for Fred Brooks. Similarly, Ken Thompson is not titled Kenneth Thompson, and Raj Reddy is not titled Dabbala Rajagopal Reddy.- Fuzheado | Talk 01:52, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mention Reddy Kilowatt.
. E Eng 02:59, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Any potential move arguments for Ken Thompson and Raj Reddy would not be analogous to those submitted for the move of Fred Brooks to Frederick Brooks, Frederick P. Brooks or Frederick P. Brooks Jr. There are 32 inline cites contained at the bottom of the Ken Thompson entry and nearly all of them refer to him as "Ken", not as "Kenneth".

As for Raj Reddy, there are 69 inline cites below his entry and, again, nearly of those refer to him as "Raj", not as "Dabbala Rajagopal". On the other hand, as pointed out in the nomination, virtually all inline cites refer to "Frederick", not "Fred", and furthermore, "Frederick" appears as pen name on all his work, not simply book covers and on nearly all citations, not simply formal ones. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the question may be less what name Brooks published under, and more how he is referred to in secondary sources. I see lots of sources that refer to him as Fred Brooks; a smaller (but not inconsiderable) number that refer to him as Frederick or Frederick P. Brooks. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 10:46, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.